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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2610962, member: 19463"]There are four kinds of these coins according to Favorito (decent little book: <b>Bronze Coinage of Ancient Syracuse</b>). All used to be dated to Timoleon but hoard evidence pushed that back 25 years ago. The problem is that the best indicators of type wear away making it hard to tell what you have. You can tell yours and mine once had a wreath on the helmet like Alegandron's, Z's and TIF's because that type also shows a rein on the hippocamp while there is no rein on the plain helmet coins. A sub variation of the wreathed type has dolphins like mine.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]571179[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The fourth type has a snake on the helmet. There is a beautiful one for sale on VCoins now for $850 and a couple lesser ones that show part of the snake but lack the legend difference which makes them skippable to me. I can not get out of my head that it would be easy to tool a snake on the helmet creating the rare type so I won't be buying one without the correct legends, too. Since I owned my coin 20 years before I met TIF, I can not blame her. I do have a desire to get the other three types (but not for $850!) and can not blame her for that either. Favorito points out that the wreath helmet coins tend to be heavier compared to the smaller and dumpier plane helmets. I suggest not buying a coin not showing at least enough of the type indicators that you can convince yourself which you have. The rein is last to go.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2610962, member: 19463"]There are four kinds of these coins according to Favorito (decent little book: [B]Bronze Coinage of Ancient Syracuse[/B]). All used to be dated to Timoleon but hoard evidence pushed that back 25 years ago. The problem is that the best indicators of type wear away making it hard to tell what you have. You can tell yours and mine once had a wreath on the helmet like Alegandron's, Z's and TIF's because that type also shows a rein on the hippocamp while there is no rein on the plain helmet coins. A sub variation of the wreathed type has dolphins like mine. [ATTACH=full]571179[/ATTACH] The fourth type has a snake on the helmet. There is a beautiful one for sale on VCoins now for $850 and a couple lesser ones that show part of the snake but lack the legend difference which makes them skippable to me. I can not get out of my head that it would be easy to tool a snake on the helmet creating the rare type so I won't be buying one without the correct legends, too. Since I owned my coin 20 years before I met TIF, I can not blame her. I do have a desire to get the other three types (but not for $850!) and can not blame her for that either. Favorito points out that the wreath helmet coins tend to be heavier compared to the smaller and dumpier plane helmets. I suggest not buying a coin not showing at least enough of the type indicators that you can convince yourself which you have. The rein is last to go.[/QUOTE]
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