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Transylvania
AV Quarter Dukat 1765 N-B Nagybanya Mint
HRE Franz I von Lothringen 1745-65

 

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Another day/ another Dukat/ one of my favs....
Transylvania
AV Dukat 1606 C-V
Klausenberg Mint
Stephan Bocskai 1604-06

 

Two Sicilies
AV 6 Ducati 1760
Naples Mint
Ferdinando IV 1759-1828

 

Bayern
AV Dukat 1850 München Mint
Maximilian II

 

I don't have any.

 

Time to start! They are some of the most beautifull coins ever designed. They go from 1/32 too 105 Dukaten 375g.
I have about 560 of them/ sadly cannot afford the bigger types
Here is a 10 Zecchini (Dukaten)
Papal States/ Bologna
AV 10 Zecchini 1786
Bologna Mint
Pope Pius VI 1775-1800

 

Yes! The problem is that when I discover a ducat I like, I either can't find it in satisfactory condition (the Duchy of Milan one is an example of this) or it costs too much (the Augustus the Strong one is an example of this).

 

Mine are all in MS. You can get MS ones from Dutch Provinces 1600-1800s for under 1000US

The Sachsen 1630 types are not bad in MS 2-3K
Venetian Zecchini are also reasonable.

 

The Duchy of Milan ones? The only one I see for sale costs 2290 EUR and has a scratch, a dent and serious wear (or whatever it is that caused the damage) in certain places, so they can forget about me buying it.

I have a 6 stuivers Dutch gold coin from 1770, so I don't plan on buying anymore Dutch coins.

I don't like the design (and yes, they had the same design for 513 years!) of the Venetian ones, so even if they cost 400 EUR, I wouldn't buy them.

 

Here s mine from Sachsen/Kürfurstentum
1630

I got this one for 2400US in 2016. They are nice and reasonabled priced.

 

They are okay, but I am not somebody who will spend thousands on "okay", I spend that kind of money only on coins I really like.

Anyway, today I discovered a numismatic shop in Lombardy and saw that they have the Duchy of Milan ducat I was looking for, but then I magnified the picture of the coin and saw that Filippo Visconti's cheek has a hole on it, and what is even worse, above it are the ugly red spots caused by copper.

 

A ducat from old Venice:


Venice Ducat Doge Pasquale Cicogna 1585-1595
Gold, 20 mm, 3.50 gm

Obverse: Left Saint Mark, standing and facing right with banner, right, the Doge kneeling
S M VENET DVX PASC CICON
("Sacra Moneta Venetiae Dux Paschalis Ciconia" or "Sacred Money of Venice Duke Pasquale Cicogna")

Reverse: Christ standing with Book of Gospels, surrounded by 19 stars and oval
SIT T XPE DAT QTV REGIS ISTE DVCAT
("Sit tibi, Christe, datus, quem tu regis, iste ducatus" or "To Thee, O'Christ, is Dedicated, Which Thou Rulest, this Duchy")

Venetian gold ducats circulated all over Europe during the middle ages. They were also known as zecchinos and sequins.

These coins were made of 99% gold but sometimes had small amounts of impurities. This coin has a corrosion spot due to exposed silver or copper on the surface.

The Republic of Venice was the city of commerce during the middle ages, and was ruled by an elected Doge (Duke) and a council.

Doge Pasquale became known for throwing out silver coins rather than gold coins during his coronation.

Pasquale's major achievement as Doge was converting the city's Rialto Bridge from wood to stone.

He died in 1595 and a year later an Englishman named William Shakespeare wrote a play "The Merchant of Venice" in which the duke was a minor character.

 

I still have no Gold Ducats, but I am thinking about one day buying this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1550224114...0WPP9X&hash=item24180e46a2:g:hAwAAOSwT29imhM-

This Charles is the one who founded the Croatian city of Karlovac (Karlo is the Croatian version of Charles) in 1579 as a fortress-city to defend against the Ottoman Empire.

 

I have that one from Terner Collection MS-64

I paid $1500US Goldberg auction.

I have over 400 AV Dukaten and fractions.

 

I want to find one in better condition as well (the one in the link has an inspection mark and some other issues).

 

Look at for how much this gold ducat was sold for: https://leunumismatik.com/en/lot/49/3482

 

And its not great quality+ mounted in bezel! I paid in Zloty ($4100US) for this 1633 K-B AV Dukat Ferdinand II HRE 1619-37 in Polish auction 2015. Its perfect FDC
In 2019 a MS ex. same year/ not as nice as mine/ sold for 24K euros in Slovak auction/ last year that same coin sold for 28K

 

This is an interesting coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces267065.html

 

Lets hope that someone finds a large hoard of them. I would like one in my collection.

 

Nobody will wind a large hoard of them, because they were minted in honour of Stjepan Tvrtko I being crowned King of Bosnia, and given out to the important dignitaries present at the coronation and sent to various ones across Europe that didn't attend the coronation, so if even one gets discovered somewhere in good condition, it would be a major stroke of luck.

I would like one in my collection as well, but that will never happen, the one I posted a link to was sold for 65000 DM in 1995 in Zagreb to a member of the Croatian diaspora who at the time lived in America, so you could expect it to go for at least 65000 EUR today, plus an added problem is that even if you had that kind of money available in your coin budget, you wouldn't be competing just against the individuals bidding, you would also be competing against the country of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which wants the coin.