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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1317899, member: 26302"]If it is coins from a documented source that had proof that it was Celtic, then I don't have a problem calling them celtic "money". Whatever we want to collect is our own business anyway. Like I said, my main problem is those items on Ebay, and I simply wished others to be aware that without a provenance I would not think generic small bronze rings can be proven to have anything to do with any Celts whatsoever.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think we disagree as much as you think. I have an odd and curious money collection as well, so I collect the entire continuum. When something on its surface is not provable what it is, provenance becomes everything. </p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, do you own the new ABC book? I was thinking of getting it. I have Van Arsdell and Celtic coins in the BM, as well as a few other Celtic references.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Further thinking on it Moneyer I believer are main diagreement is over the word "coin". Coin has a number of criteria to be met, almost none of which "ring money" meets. It does not have mark of value, it does not have issuing authority, I am not sure if there is a guarantee of weight, etc. Money, maybe, trade item, definitely, coin, no.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1317899, member: 26302"]If it is coins from a documented source that had proof that it was Celtic, then I don't have a problem calling them celtic "money". Whatever we want to collect is our own business anyway. Like I said, my main problem is those items on Ebay, and I simply wished others to be aware that without a provenance I would not think generic small bronze rings can be proven to have anything to do with any Celts whatsoever. I don't think we disagree as much as you think. I have an odd and curious money collection as well, so I collect the entire continuum. When something on its surface is not provable what it is, provenance becomes everything. Btw, do you own the new ABC book? I was thinking of getting it. I have Van Arsdell and Celtic coins in the BM, as well as a few other Celtic references. Chris Edit: Further thinking on it Moneyer I believer are main diagreement is over the word "coin". Coin has a number of criteria to be met, almost none of which "ring money" meets. It does not have mark of value, it does not have issuing authority, I am not sure if there is a guarantee of weight, etc. Money, maybe, trade item, definitely, coin, no.[/QUOTE]
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