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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ian, post: 90959, member: 283&quot;]OK, the canuk one you know about. </p><p><br /></p><p>The copper Brit is indeed a penny (the cartwheel 2d was 41mm diam).</p><p>Your one isn&#039;t in all that brilliant for a coin whose detail is well protected by heavy rims and incuse legends / dates. Anything between $5 - $10 IMHO.</p><p><br /></p><p>The not so wee german is from Brunswick- Wolfenbuttel issued in the names of Rudolph August (1666-1704) and Anton Ulrich (1685-1704) whop were joint rulers. (KM586 and definitely 1693). Just under the word `groschen&#039; should be three stars . The next line has `HC (symbol) H&#039;, the mark of the mint master Heinrich Christoph Hille, and indicating the coin was struck at Brunswick.</p><p><br /></p><p>One thing i will say about that coin is that there is something going on with it. The horse is twice as fat as it should be, indicating to me that the coin has been either double struck or overstruck. The legends above its head seem to indicate double struck, but....you&#039;ve got it in hand. have a close look. The horsie should be a lot slimmer though.&nbsp; ;-) In that condition KM has it at circa $30 - $60 at the top end (again, IMHO).</p><p><br /></p><p>The Brit silver is indeed a double florin, aka 4/-,&nbsp; aka four shillings, aka `four bob&#039;.&nbsp; It is .925 silver, weighs 22.6207 gms (actual silver content being .6727 ozs). In 1889 there was an error coin with the second I in Victoria being a 1. You don&#039;t have to bother with that though &#039;cause yours is the plain Jane one. That date ranges in value from around $25 in Fine through to $140 in Unc. I personally don&#039;t think it warrants a higher grade than EF, but again, my opninon and 25c still wouldn&#039;t fetch a cup of coffee. </p><p>To my mind these double florins are considerably undervalued in relation to their historical context and relatively short lifespan. Yours is a very nice collectable example. </p><p><br /></p><p>cheers,</p><p><br /></p><p>Ian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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