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<p>[QUOTE="CopperKing559, post: 1329606, member: 34940"]:desk:</p><p>Yes, running 24/7 like I said. Aside from government holiday's. 300 million is the amount of pennies? Did you even read the thread title, or did you just jump on the opportunity to shame someone online? Are you that bored, or that on edge? I'm confused. When was the last time you ran production numbers on injection molding machines? Don't tell me google is your best friend.</p><p>When did I say 2 men per machine? 2 tech's can maintain 20 machines running 24/7, easily. The operators are basically box packers and the fix small problems that are a regular occurance when IM'ing plastic. 2 of them can take care of 20 machines, also. That's 4 men on 20 machines, or 1:5, per 8 hour shift. California has a law that over 8 hours is overtime, so if you go to another state, you can run 12 hour shifts on regular pay. That's 8 men 24 hours a day, at bare minimum. You can bump up their pay or higher another new guy, and things will run smooth. You seem to imply that the goverment is going to be minting plastic money with the same old Battenfeld's we were making drippers with, in the same production model, haha. I think they'll buy more efficient, higher capacity molds. We only had 64 cavities per mold, when running at full capacity. I think they would shoot a little higher.:thumb:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Did you even read my post, or the title of the thread? I don't know what half of your arguement has to do with what I said, but I'm glad you've proven your math skills. I said plastic is cheaper to buy and process than metal. It requires no preparation other than refining, which is done cheap in the middle east. Other than that, it's a simple injection molding process which can be done by any bonehead for $30k a year, other than a couple of mold tech's to change out molds every now and again. Even that can be taught to the same bonehead and he'll do it for another 2 bucks an hour. I've seen it done in a mid-sized operation; with the mint's budget, it would be a cake walk to do cent pieces in plastic. Your whole example excludes the fact that you DON'T buy metal anymore, you DON'T melt, refine, and transport millions of tons of metal over and over again. You save money by purchasing a cheaper material, eliminating several preparation costs and CONSIDERABLY lowering transportation fees. Not to mention your whole example is about the mint in general. I believe this is about pennies? Why don't you try to positively contribute to a conversation, rather than simply make a post just to insult another's judgement.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also disagree with you on the point of eliminating the cent. Why don't they eliminate dollar bills and replace them with all the left over dollar coins they have? How intelligent is it to make the most circulated bill in America out of cotton pulp? Do you know how much longer a dollar coin lasts than a cotton bill? </p><p><br /></p><p>Sodude: You're right about the plastic money. Like I said, it would be easy to do, but, like my first post says, I don't think we should. Plastic doesn't carry enough value for someone to save, so why would we create a currency that uses it? Like someone said before, the whole mint needs an overhaul. So much money could be saved on pointless things that we'd be able to keep what we like, while staying economically feasible.</p><p><br /></p><p>:loud:</p><p>Nix the dollar bill, replace with the dollar coin, keep the cent pieces![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CopperKing559, post: 1329606, member: 34940"]:desk: Yes, running 24/7 like I said. Aside from government holiday's. 300 million is the amount of pennies? Did you even read the thread title, or did you just jump on the opportunity to shame someone online? Are you that bored, or that on edge? I'm confused. When was the last time you ran production numbers on injection molding machines? Don't tell me google is your best friend. When did I say 2 men per machine? 2 tech's can maintain 20 machines running 24/7, easily. The operators are basically box packers and the fix small problems that are a regular occurance when IM'ing plastic. 2 of them can take care of 20 machines, also. That's 4 men on 20 machines, or 1:5, per 8 hour shift. California has a law that over 8 hours is overtime, so if you go to another state, you can run 12 hour shifts on regular pay. That's 8 men 24 hours a day, at bare minimum. You can bump up their pay or higher another new guy, and things will run smooth. You seem to imply that the goverment is going to be minting plastic money with the same old Battenfeld's we were making drippers with, in the same production model, haha. I think they'll buy more efficient, higher capacity molds. We only had 64 cavities per mold, when running at full capacity. I think they would shoot a little higher.:thumb: Did you even read my post, or the title of the thread? I don't know what half of your arguement has to do with what I said, but I'm glad you've proven your math skills. I said plastic is cheaper to buy and process than metal. It requires no preparation other than refining, which is done cheap in the middle east. Other than that, it's a simple injection molding process which can be done by any bonehead for $30k a year, other than a couple of mold tech's to change out molds every now and again. Even that can be taught to the same bonehead and he'll do it for another 2 bucks an hour. I've seen it done in a mid-sized operation; with the mint's budget, it would be a cake walk to do cent pieces in plastic. Your whole example excludes the fact that you DON'T buy metal anymore, you DON'T melt, refine, and transport millions of tons of metal over and over again. You save money by purchasing a cheaper material, eliminating several preparation costs and CONSIDERABLY lowering transportation fees. Not to mention your whole example is about the mint in general. I believe this is about pennies? Why don't you try to positively contribute to a conversation, rather than simply make a post just to insult another's judgement. I also disagree with you on the point of eliminating the cent. Why don't they eliminate dollar bills and replace them with all the left over dollar coins they have? How intelligent is it to make the most circulated bill in America out of cotton pulp? Do you know how much longer a dollar coin lasts than a cotton bill? Sodude: You're right about the plastic money. Like I said, it would be easy to do, but, like my first post says, I don't think we should. Plastic doesn't carry enough value for someone to save, so why would we create a currency that uses it? Like someone said before, the whole mint needs an overhaul. So much money could be saved on pointless things that we'd be able to keep what we like, while staying economically feasible. :loud: Nix the dollar bill, replace with the dollar coin, keep the cent pieces![/QUOTE]
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