Should I Remove Coin from Inferior Slab?

If you crack it out try to do so as gently as possible and send me the shell, I don't have one of those.

Do you have an image of the back?

 

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Looks like it could go at least MS-62/63 PL. I’d crack it out and get it graded by PCGS (only because people like Morgans in their holders better).

Did either of you even compare it to the real thing? It looks reasonable to me.

 

My first impression was "why it the 7 half again as tall as the other digits?" In the closeups, I can see that it may just be a matter of lighting.

Just to make it even more obvious to anyone reading, I'm not a Morgan expert, and it's often a bad idea to make Morgan decisions based on my advice...

 

FWIW, if you decide to submit it to NGC they won't even accept it in that slab. I'm sure they do this because people could send anything in and they may not be familiar with how to safely remove the coin. So then you'd have submitters claiming their coin was damaged from being removed form "XYZ" slab. So they just avoid it.

They will only accept NGC and PCGS slabs for a cross over or re-grade consideration. Otherwise it needs to be submitted in a plastic flip like everything else. That label won't influence their decision making on it anyway.

 

1st pic below is date from OP's coin. 2nd pic is from 1878-CC VAM-11 from VAM World at same resolution. What ya think?

Cal

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Pic 2:

 

I don't think its worth regrading take it out of that slab but I am not sure if it is not a counterfeit as that 7 looks off

 

Notice how the top of the first 8 on the suspect coin is not lit up. That makes the 7 look gigantic next to it. It is just an illusion.

 

If OP (calling @907Novice) could post a pic of the reverse, the VAM attribution could be verified. The reverse of 1878-CC VAM-11 is quite distinctive. This coin is number 20 in the VAM top 100.

Cal

 

A couple more pics. I think VAM 11 is correct.

 

One more. Sorry about the resolution.

 

Definitely has lines on the wings in the right places. Position and slant of mint mark look right too. I'm not really a VAMer, but looks like VAM-11 to me. This increases the chances it's authentic, but fake 1878-CCs have been discovered. Not sure what VAM, if any. Need to have it looked at coin-to-person by an expert. If you can attend a major show, there are experts who would give an opinion for free; otherwise, it should be NGC or PCGS.

Cal

 

As Jeff mentioned I am not a Morgan expert by any means. The 7 and the 8 looked large to me in the OP and your pictures as well. Could be the lighting and I defer to your expertise.

 

Thank you all for your insight and comments. I don't live anywhere close to where there might be major shows but I'll definitely send it in to NGC or PCGS.

 

I’d crack it. I think it’s real and a decent shot at ms 62/3 pl. I use end cutting pliers to break slabs I’ve done quite a few. I have about every possible tool available as I have a woodworking business

 

If you are thinking of NGC, join ANA (money.org) which will get you a free membership in NGC.

Cal

 

I'm not sure if PCGS or NGC will even crack this out for you, so you need to remove it anyway for grading. On their website, they only crack out coins from established companies.

For what it's worth though, it is a collector's item in the slab. There is a small group of collectors that collect weird and interesting slabs. In fact, this month's Coin World has a cover story on it.

But since this coin lists at $4K in the grade labeled, it might be worth it to see what you actually have. Take it to a dealer and have them help submit it.

 

The date. (7) is fake

 

Thanks. That is one big ash 7

 

Second 8 looks funky too. @Morgandude11. @MorganMan. @MorganDollarGuy