Should I pay this guy on eBay?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by JCB1983, May 27, 2012.

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  1. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    Maybe that is not much of a sellers "responsibility". Maybe a seller has kids of their own to babysit. Maybe a seller takes into consideration that a person, bidding on that much is responsible enough to take appropriate actions before taking any sort of medications/drugs. Maybe a seller (like me) don't want to deal with people who don't want to honor a bid as some of us think it is a WASTE of time and some of us don't have much of it.

    Maybe he should just man-up to his doing and just pay up and learn from it!
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    He did sir, I reference his post where he did so on the previous page, (#96 I believe).
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD Supporter! Supporter

    This is what is wrong with many sellers. They are completely unwilling to deal with people. eBay has made that very don't have to look in someone's eyes. Sometimes, life happens and as a result things don't work out as planned. Just because a bid is placed, doesn't mean that on occasion circumstances might change resulting in the buyer not being able to complete the purchase. It is not a WASTE of time to deal with these rare instances and certainly not a bad business move either. It is because of closed minded sellers with policies like this that eBay the problem that it is.
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Should he be commeneded for doing the right thing? No, but he does deserve some respect. At least in the end he was willing to man up and do the right thing.

    While this may be nothing like a drunk killing someone in its level of severity, they are similar in the fact that both take some level of personal responsibility.

    Could it be that ebay has caused some sellers to become closed minded? I believe it more likely that a one-sided ebay policy overly coddling to buyers has put many sellers on the defensive. If "on occasion" or in "rare instances" I doubt this would be much of an issue, but the fact that it sometimes happens over and over can understandably make for a cynical seller.
  6. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Actually, yes they do.
  7. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Actually, certain drugs that have a profound effect on the user's judgement would nullify any contract they entered into because their judgement is impaired.

    However, the user is warned by the prescriber of said drugs to NOT enter into, or sign, any legally binding contracts while under the influence of the drug.

    JB did the correct thing by making the seller whole; however, as I suggested in my first post to this thread, if he has a wife, she should hide the mouse and routers so he can't have this occur again in the future.
  8. Anthorn

    Anthorn New Member

    I don't see it as blackmail: There are mitigating circumstances which in my view would stand up in a court of law. The seller should be reasonable. Accidents happen!
  9. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Actually, threatening to neg a seller if they don't cancel the bid is considered blackmail.

    While I agree JB does have mitigating circumstances, he also has an obligation to prevent something like this from happening.
  10. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    I'm not expecting anyone to respect my actions on what should have been done in the first place and I'm certainly not looking for anyone to feel sorry for me. I respect the wisdom of even some of my harshest critics and acknoledge my wrong doing. With that being said I plan on giving the note away in some sort of contest.
  11. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

  12. Cool note. You have to love the stickers on the holder. This is why I keep my 7 year old daughter far away from my collection. I am looking forward to winning that contest. :smile TC
  13. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    :eek: OOH! You bought the stickers! For "Nearly Free"
  14. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

    Do you know what blackmail (Extortion) is? What do you see it as?

  15. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

    That's too bad. But it is how some CHOOSE to conduct business and the buyer/bidder must abide by their rules or don't buy. Call it what you wish, business is business and I just gave my opinion (not to hurt your feelings or anyone else's).
  16. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    So was "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit" defense. But he lost his shirt in the subsequent civil suit.

  17. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    The problem is, when push comes to shove in a contract dispute, it would be his responsibility to prove the impairment, not the seller. How does he do that? By testifying that he has had multiple episodes where the drug affects his judgement, so he keeps taking it. I just think this would be a hard case to prove.
  18. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    If anyone is interested in trading for the note send me a PM. It is listed in the contest forum. Don't worry I will be the first to send... and no I will not be taking my sleeping medication =0
  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD Supporter! Supporter

    Clearly you did not read the rest of my statement. If the person entering into the contract was under the influence of a drug that impairs his judgement...then that contract would likely be considered void in a court of law thus absolving him of personal responsibility. Even if the bottle warns of such side effects...while under the influence he may not be able to recognize that. Again, as I said before...I believe he did the right thing by paying for it but legally he may not have had to. This is unlike the drunk driver issue where personal responsibility is not absolved in a court of law.

    I think that is a very nice note and you should be proud to own it.
  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD Supporter! Supporter

    It doesn't hurt my feelings...but I and many others will CHOOSE not to do business with sellers who behave in this manner and thus it will hurt YOUR business.
  21. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

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