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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1018358, member: 26030"]<b>Thanks Lead!</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Here was more info that 900Fine sent me about the coin ... (I hope he doesnt mind that i posted it -- but i think it's interesting)</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b></b>I have a marvelous 1833 NGC MS61 with lots of luster. I gotta be honest with you - it also has a few luster breaks which makes me think it's really more like an AU58. But as we've heard many times, a solid AU is a better looking coin than an MS61. I think NGC market graded this one up due to exceptional eye appeal. </p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://www.cointalk.private.php/?do=showpm&pmid=327678#ixzz12qFpzZO5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.private.php/?do=showpm&pmid=327678#ixzz12qFpzZO5" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://www.cointalk.private.php/?do=showpm&pmid=327678#ixzz12qFpzZO5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.private.php/?do=showpm&pmid=327678#ixzz12qFpzZO5" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></span></p><p><br /></p><p>It looks kind of frosty in the photo, but has more cartwheel in hand.<b></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Luster breaks</b>: </p><p><br /></p><p>OBVERSE - look above the eye and beneatth the letteres L, B, R, and Y in LIBERTY. One observes small areas of a <b>steel grey color</b>, quite different from the overall color of the coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>REVERSE - Look above the H in HALF and beneath the O in OF. Draw a line from the letter M to the center; look where that line crosses the leaf.</p><p><br /></p><p>Those luster breaks are probably "album wear". They don't look like circulation rub, which is more generalized and spread across the surface of the coin (especially the cheek). Album Wear occurs when someone puts it into the type of album which has a thin, clear plastic slide on obverse and reverse sides; every time they open and close those slides it rubs on the very highest parts of the coin. Thus, even an uncirculated coin gets rub, but it looks different from circulation wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>One more reason I don't think those breaks are circulation wear - they are too small, too localized, and don't affect the letters. Circulation rub covers much more of the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>For similar reasons, many coins (not this one) get big fingerprints, even on uncirculated or proof coins. Someone wedged it into an album (which violates Rule Number One of handling coins - touch 'em only by the edges.)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Colors</b>: </p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, they are the same as in the photo. Yes, you are wise to ask questions about digital enhancement and special lighting. No tricks here; we use Ott lights with the camera white-balanced to that light. Zero photoshop enhancement.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://mindstar.com/1833.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://mindstar.com/1833.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>[FONT=&quot]</b></p><p><b>[/FONT]</b>[FONT=&quot]</p><p> [/FONT][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1018358, member: 26030"][B]Thanks Lead! Here was more info that 900Fine sent me about the coin ... (I hope he doesnt mind that i posted it -- but i think it's interesting) [/B]I have a marvelous 1833 NGC MS61 with lots of luster. I gotta be honest with you - it also has a few luster breaks which makes me think it's really more like an AU58. But as we've heard many times, a solid AU is a better looking coin than an MS61. I think NGC market graded this one up due to exceptional eye appeal. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000][URL="http://www.cointalk.private.php/?do=showpm&pmid=327678#ixzz12qFpzZO5"] [/URL][/COLOR][/LEFT] It looks kind of frosty in the photo, but has more cartwheel in hand.[B] Luster breaks[/B]: OBVERSE - look above the eye and beneatth the letteres L, B, R, and Y in LIBERTY. One observes small areas of a [B]steel grey color[/B], quite different from the overall color of the coin. REVERSE - Look above the H in HALF and beneath the O in OF. Draw a line from the letter M to the center; look where that line crosses the leaf. Those luster breaks are probably "album wear". They don't look like circulation rub, which is more generalized and spread across the surface of the coin (especially the cheek). Album Wear occurs when someone puts it into the type of album which has a thin, clear plastic slide on obverse and reverse sides; every time they open and close those slides it rubs on the very highest parts of the coin. Thus, even an uncirculated coin gets rub, but it looks different from circulation wear. One more reason I don't think those breaks are circulation wear - they are too small, too localized, and don't affect the letters. Circulation rub covers much more of the coin. For similar reasons, many coins (not this one) get big fingerprints, even on uncirculated or proof coins. Someone wedged it into an album (which violates Rule Number One of handling coins - touch 'em only by the edges.) [B]Colors[/B]: Yes, they are the same as in the photo. Yes, you are wise to ask questions about digital enhancement and special lighting. No tricks here; we use Ott lights with the camera white-balanced to that light. Zero photoshop enhancement. [IMG]http://mindstar.com/1833.png[/IMG][IMG]http://mindstar.com/1833.jpg[/IMG] [B][FONT="] [/FONT][/B][FONT="] [/FONT][/QUOTE]
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