Should I be excited? China 1932 Junk Dollar w/Birds

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by stldanceartist, Dec 13, 2013.

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Is this authentic?

  1. Definitely real. Get excited.

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  2. Too soon to tell. Send it to get graded.

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  3. Probably fake. List it on eBay. (sarcasm!)

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  4. Definitely fake. At least you didn't pay that much for it.

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  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Picked this absolutely stunning coin up today...from a junk foreign silver bin.

    Weighs: 26.70 grams
    Diameter: 40mm

    China 1932 Junk Dollar - Obverse.jpg China 1932 Junk Dollar - Reverse.jpg
     
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  3. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    looks real to me, but I know nothing. weight is good
     
  4. ROLLJUNKIE

    ROLLJUNKIE Active Member

    How do we know if you should be excited if you didn't tell what you paid?

    Melt? Excited
    5 grand? Not so much
     
  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

  6. ROLLJUNKIE

    ROLLJUNKIE Active Member

    I think you did really well.
     
  7. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Id say its a 500 dollar coin.
     
  8. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    If it's real...recent eBay auctions (sold auctions only) would suggest a bit more:

    XF40 (these two are the same coin)
    (Sold via BO on Oct 10, 2013. Original asking price was $2,000 OBO. Hope they made some money, because they bought it for $1,985 on Sep 28)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-China-...6353765?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2a32874ae5
    ($1,985 on Sep 28, 2013)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-China-Junk-Dollar-with-Birds-/400576976404?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item5d443f9614&nma=true&si=UBpjLj6GO2CnSiz%2BnD7B9b79vpo%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    XF45 ($1,493.00 on Sep 18, 2013)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-China-...ANACS-EF-45-/321206347505?hash=item4ac963e6f1

    AU53 ($2,136.11 on Oct 10, 2013)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-China-...9712593?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a859c3ed1

    MS61 ($3,301.01 Dec 5, 2013)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1932-C...8450213?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item1e83b13f25

    NGC AU58 (commentary: really?) ($1,468.75, ends Jan 4)
    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3030&lotNo=23358

    PCGS AU Details ($1,997.50)
    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=3026&lotNo=24229

    That's why I'm wondering (hoping) that it's real...because this coin is much nicer than all but maybe the MS61.
     
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  9. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    krause has it at 500. they are a bit off
     
  10. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    I know...I would have been happy with the price they list...but it looks like in the real world these are much more desirable. It's getting packaged and sent off to NGC today...hopefully before the storm hits.
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian Supporter

    I know nothing about these coins, but if it's for real, I think you win cherrypick of the year!
     
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  12. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Officially on its way to NGC. Fingers crossed...
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh wow, i hope it's real!
     
  14. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Edited previous post to combine auction results. (housecleaning)
     
  15. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Wow, this old be a good'un! Best of fortune and keep us posted! :)
     
  16. Volante

    Volante Well-Known Member

    Wow. This is why coin shop owners need to educate themselves on world coins.
     
  17. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Update: I have just gotten an opinion (just that, an opinion) from a very reputable dealer on the Collectors Society boards that the coin is going to turn out to be real and will probably grade somewhere between high AU and MS63.

    Lift, Dragon! Lift with vigor!
     
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  18. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    FYI: This coin remained so nice because it was in a paper envelope...that was FULLY LABELED. I'm just saying.
     
  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast Supporter

    Great find! Nothing fake about it, all signs point to legit. As far as grade I think 63 is pushing it, but should have no problem getting a 61 at least.
     
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  20. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    That would be amazing...
     
  21. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Officially in "Received" status at NGC. Shouldn't be long now...only coin on the invoice.

    Here's hoping for tidings of GREAT JOY...
     
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