Should I artificially tone this Philippine peso?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by hotwheelsearl, Oct 18, 2021.

  1. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I bought this cleaned Philippines peso for $20. Unfortunately, it is heavily cleaned.

    I'm wondering if this would be a good candidate for some artificial toning, and if so, what the best process is.

    I clean, tone, and otherwise abuse ancient coins all the time, but I know its a bit more of an ethical concern with modern coins.

    What think you?
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  3. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Just put it in a tupperwear with crushed boiled eggs (it should not have direct contact with the coin), that way it simply speeds up the natural toning process.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No do not AT it.
     
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  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It's your coin and you can experiment if you want to (especially since it is an inexpensive coin). The bigger ethical issue would be if you altered it and then sold the coin claiming it was naturally toned or problem free. As long as you disclose the issues when selling (cleaned & AT), then I don't see an issue.
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't agree! What if he dies, and his heirs decide to unload the collection. It becomes just one more AT coin in the marketplace, and someone is likely to be fooled by it.
     
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  7. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    If it looks like the picture, I'd leave it alone.
     
  8. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    you understand the ethical implications?
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    gee, I'm too young to die :(
     
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sooner or later, my friend! Sooner or later!
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  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It will almost certainly sell for pennies on the dollar if it's unloaded like many collections by heirs that don't know about coins. It will also be obviously AT and won't fool most collectors. In fact, it is just as likely to be sold as-is by an unscrupulous dealer who would not mention that it is cleaned to someone who would be fooled.
     
  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Just google, toning metals or something similar. You tube has videos too. Have fun.
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    If you do it, share...
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It gets us all one day or another.
     
  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Years ago, I had a few French Louis Philippe and Napoleon III 5 franc coins that were harshly cleaned (got them for approx melt). Put them in heavy yellow 2x2 envelopes and left them on a sunny window sill for 9-12 months, checking occasionally. They look much better, but nobody is going to mistake them for problem free coins
     
  16. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    As oldhoopster says, a yellow coin envelope in a warm place will slowly tone a silver coin. It should take some of the shine off, and its educational.

    I feel better about a process that takes a while, and some poor coins just need a little help, they can look better without being a means of ripping the next guy off. Am I crazy?:shame:
     
  17. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    If it's not a rare or expensive coin, why not do whatever pleases you?
    You can always put it in a holder that indicates it has been artificially toned.
    I'm not a big fan of toned coins of any kind, but if you have the chance to
    make something (potentially) beautiful which makes you happy, why not?

    I guess it's a little like turning a coin into a piece of jewelry--it may destroy some
    of the numismatic value, while adding artistic value to the right audience.
     
  18. AdamL

    AdamL Likes Silver

    If you want to, I don't see any harm in it since the coin is already harshly cleaned.
     
  19. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    After doing some research, I will attempt the hard boiled egg method. If it doesn't work, I'll have an egg sandwich for breakfast.
     
  20. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I've heard damp old manila envelopes, the old yellow coin envelopes, the boiled egg rountine, and I know a guy who used to put the coin in a potato and bake it. The P.I. pesos are beautiful But still rather inexpensive. If you feel like experimenting go ahead, but mark the holder "AT"
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I see nothing wrong with experimenting. I agree with all the above who said the same thing.
    And post some Photos when you are done Hot Wheels.
     
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