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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Texas John, post: 1744298, member: 25813&quot;]I know it&#039;s pointless to rail against reality, and the only thing that&#039;s permanent is change.</p><p><br /></p><p>Nonetheless, as a collector who started with a Whitman Lincoln cent folder I got as a Christmas present when I was five, I say this: Hair-splitting grading of the sort being discussed here ultimately benefits the people who split hairs for a living, and even they don&#039;t do it consistently.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve been forced by fakers and frausters to collect &quot;certified&quot; coins, because their ability to cheat exceeds my ability to detect it, but I focus on coins graded at or around AU 58. Many of them are more appealing visually than MS 60whatever coins that sell for many times as much, and I don&#039;t have to engage in debates like this one.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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