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<p>[QUOTE="Owle, post: 759406, member: 22004"]<b>Contracts and "Fraud"</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Ah, the power of contracts, and the freedom that corporations and governments enjoy from prosecution when they engage in fraud!</p><p> </p><p>I shipped two ounces of AE gold from New Hampshire, the "live free or die" state to Ron Paul in Texas to pay him for a speaking engagement. No, they were not "properly" insured and yes they were stolen in transit. Did I have any recourse? None at all, the USPS offered to refund shipping cost. Possibly the postal employee who grabbed this "freebee" was later caught.</p><p> </p><p>When UPS accepted a telescope for shipment, with adequate insurance, what did they do when the person in the South with whom I had a contract told me that he could not honor the contract because it had arrived damaged, and UPS said they could not honor the insurance because I didn't provide enough foam nuggets to protect the shipped item??? </p><p> </p><p>Fraud has many definitions in Webster's and in Black's Law Dictionary. One definition is to "arouse desires that cannot be righteously fulfilled". That's the idea, common sense mediates in some situations, we have reasonable expectations, that are butressed by common practice and experience. When a lawful entity fails to fulfill it's side of the bargain, it should be subject to the loss and the legal expense of recovery. In some situations aggravation and emotional turmoil are factored into the legal equation, but not usually with out and out theft.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Owle, post: 759406, member: 22004"][b]Contracts and "Fraud"[/b] Ah, the power of contracts, and the freedom that corporations and governments enjoy from prosecution when they engage in fraud! I shipped two ounces of AE gold from New Hampshire, the "live free or die" state to Ron Paul in Texas to pay him for a speaking engagement. No, they were not "properly" insured and yes they were stolen in transit. Did I have any recourse? None at all, the USPS offered to refund shipping cost. Possibly the postal employee who grabbed this "freebee" was later caught. When UPS accepted a telescope for shipment, with adequate insurance, what did they do when the person in the South with whom I had a contract told me that he could not honor the contract because it had arrived damaged, and UPS said they could not honor the insurance because I didn't provide enough foam nuggets to protect the shipped item??? Fraud has many definitions in Webster's and in Black's Law Dictionary. One definition is to "arouse desires that cannot be righteously fulfilled". That's the idea, common sense mediates in some situations, we have reasonable expectations, that are butressed by common practice and experience. When a lawful entity fails to fulfill it's side of the bargain, it should be subject to the loss and the legal expense of recovery. In some situations aggravation and emotional turmoil are factored into the legal equation, but not usually with out and out theft.[/QUOTE]
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