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Message:: [QUOTE="kuhli, post: 23111, member: 86"]I'll go you one better.  Star Grading Service's website is <a href="http://www.stargrading.org" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.stargrading.org" rel="nofollow">www.stargrading.org</a>  Run that address through InterNic WhoIs and you get:Registrant Name:Larry BenceRegistrant Organization:Star Grading ServiceRegistrant Street1:115 Park Ave WestRegistrant Street2:Registrant Street3:Registrant City:MansfieldRegistrant State/Province:OHRegistrant Postal Code:44902Registrant Country:USRegistrant Phone:+1.4195225346Registrant Phone Ext.:120Registrant FAX:+1.4195226379Registrant FAX Ext.:Registrant Email:lbence@abon.com For <a href="http://www.abon.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.abon.com" rel="nofollow">www.abon.com</a> information, you have to go through directNIC and you get:  Registrant:   Abon Limited   115 Park Ave. West   Mansfield, OH 44902   US   419-522-5346 Sounds like the third party grading service is a party of 1.[/QUOTE]