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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Silver Striker, post: 113043, member: 1745&quot;]I&#039;ve been lurking around for a long time and it&#039;s been some time since my last post regarding SGS.</p><p><br /></p><p>We all know about SGS and ABONCOM (Abon.com) (Stargrading.org) being one and the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve also done some posting on E-Bay&#039;s message board regarding SGS and have had my most recent post deleted by the moderators.</p><p><br /></p><p>Appearently, E-Bay doesn&#039;t want members informing other members about the pitfalls of SGS and ABONCOM slabbed and HIGHLY OVERGRADED coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s the letter (below)&nbsp; I just got back today from E-Bay which includes the message I left on the E-Bay message board.&nbsp;&nbsp; I suppose that the truth really hurts E-Bay, but their profits are MORE important.&nbsp; I wanted to point out the pitfalls of any other reseller than ABONCOM making claims about the COA. The only problem I see with it was the listing of two auction item numbers to show the fraud within SGS and ABONCOM&#039;s Certificate of Authenticy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hello,</p><p><br /></p><p>Recently we became aware that your eBay registered account was involved </p><p>in the following activity:</p><p><br /></p><p>Posting item listing reports or member violations. To report suspected </p><p>violations, please use our online forms at </p><p><a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-investigations.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-investigations.html" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-investigations.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>which is not permitted at eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a copy of your post:</p><p><br /></p><p>SGS and their problem with their COA&nbsp; </p><p>View Listings | Report&nbsp; Feb-17-06 01:52 PST&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>Here&#039;s another problem which might just bite SGS slabs and their </p><p>resellers.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is the accompanied &quot;CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICY&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s the exact wording.</p><p><br /></p><p>CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY</p><p><br /></p><p># &quot;YOUR INDIVIDUALLY REGISTERED SERIAL NUMBER HERE&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>FOR THIS SGS GRADED COIN</p><p><br /></p><p>DESCRIPTION OF YOUR SGS GUARANTEED COIN HERE</p><p><br /></p><p>STAR GRADING SERVICE (SGS) CERTIFIES THE AUTHENTICY OF THIS COIN AND </p><p>GUARANTEES SUCH FOR THE FULL PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE LIFE OF THE </p><p>COIN. WE WILL TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE OR ALTERATIONS TO </p><p>THIS COIN. ANY SUCH ALTERATIONS MAKES OUR GUARANTEE VOID.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now check out what other sellers are saying regarding this COA. </p><p>Here&#039;s one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Guarantee: With your Graded Coins, you will receive the SGS Official </p><p>Certificate of Authenticity certifying the authenticity of each </p><p>piece and guarantees the authenticity and grade for the life of the </p><p>coin. Guarantee is in effect so long as the coin holder and or seals </p><p>do not show evidence of alteration, tampering, removal, or abuse, </p><p>and any such alteration, tampering, removal, or abuse makes any </p><p>guarantee void.</p><p><br /></p><p>Where in their COA guarantee do they guarantee the GRADE of the </p><p>coin? NOWHERE! The major powerseller here on e-bay who we all know </p><p>as being the owner of SGS has NEVER made the claim that the GRADE of </p><p>the coin is guaranteed as the other sellers are doing here on e-bay.</p><p><br /></p><p>OK lets say one of these second hand sellers of the SGS slab sells </p><p>one of these SGS high graded (but very over graded) coin for near </p><p>book price. Does the new seller of this coin have to make good on </p><p>their erroneous grade guarantee?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, SGS serial numbers are garbage. If you buy the two identical </p><p>coins with identical grades!!! GUESS what??? The serial numbers are </p><p>identical. To show this check out these two auctions and their </p><p>serial numbers listed in the description.</p><p><br /></p><p>8385212150</p><p>8384657969</p><p><br /></p><p>Under these circumstances how can SGS and their powerseller and </p><p>owner make the claim &quot;YOUR INDIVIDUALLY REGISTERED SERIAL NUMBER </p><p>HERE&quot;? Your number is not unique in any way and in no way REGISTERED </p><p>anywhere except on the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>Talk about false advertising here on e-bay!!!</p><p><br /></p><p>I really hate how the new collectors to the coin hobby are being </p><p>manipulated to think that SGS slabs are in any way representative of </p><p>TRUE GRADING in the coin hobby.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We realize that you may not have been aware there was a rule against </p><p>this activity. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to invite </p><p>you to review our site policies, which can be found at:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please understand our goal is to help you understand our policies to </p><p>ensure successful experiences at eBay. Therefore, we respectfully request that </p><p>you refrain from this activity in the future to avoid the possibility of a </p><p>suspension of your eBay registration.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you for your cooperation in this important matter.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regards,</p><p>eBay Moderation Team[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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