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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;curtislclay, post: 4185886, member: 89514&quot;]Your thinking is correct: definitely an As, though a heavy one, because of the small portrait and diameter.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The rev. type may have to remain uncertain, unless a clear example struck from the same obv. or rev. die or both can be located. Unrelated to the Moneta types of the dupondii in any case, because of the earlier long obv. legend which only lasted until 228.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to Alexander&#039;s monetary reform announced on his dupondii, I don&#039;t know what it was, but my commentary in a Forum thread of 2012 may be relevant:</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately I think <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=robert" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=robert" rel="nofollow">Robert</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" rel="nofollow">Carson</a> badly jumbled the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a> in <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bmc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bmc" rel="nofollow">BMC</a> VI, despite providing some very useful <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" rel="nofollow">hoard</a> evidence on pp. 46-7.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course he is right, as earlier numismatists <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=had" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=had" rel="nofollow">had</a> already seen, that <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ivno%20conservatrix" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ivno%20conservatrix" rel="nofollow">IVNO CONSERVATRIX</a> is her first <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a>, and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=venvs%20genetrix" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=venvs%20genetrix" rel="nofollow">VENVS GENETRIX</a> must be her second <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> because of <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" rel="nofollow">Hoard</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=xii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=xii" rel="nofollow">XII</a>. But from then on the order and dates of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> are generally wrong in <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bmc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bmc" rel="nofollow">BMC</a>, according to the type-sequence diagrams that I drew up over 25 years ago. Having divided <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s own coinage by tribunician numbers rather than by <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a>, it was virtually impossible for <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" rel="nofollow">Carson</a> to get <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s coinage right, which of course has no tribunician numbers, just <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> with descriptive legends!</p><p><br /></p><p>I think it extremely likely that <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s final two <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> were <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas%20pvblica" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas%20pvblica" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS PVBLICA</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">Felicitas</a> seated, followed by <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas%20pvblica" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas%20pvblica" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS PVBLICA</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">Felicitas</a> standing. These two <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> corresponded to <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s Issue 8 on my scheme, lasting from early in 231 until the end of the reign in 235, and comprising the five <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1895" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1895" rel="nofollow">Sol</a> standing/advancing dated TR P X-TR P XIIII, <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Jove" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Jove" rel="nofollow">IOVIS</a> PROPVGNATOR/IOVI <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=propvgnatori" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=propvgnatori" rel="nofollow">PROPVGNATORI</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mars%20vltor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mars%20vltor" rel="nofollow">MARS VLTOR</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=providentia%20avg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=providentia%20avg" rel="nofollow">PROVIDENTIA AVG</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1894" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1894" rel="nofollow">Annona</a>, and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=spes%20pvblica" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=spes%20pvblica" rel="nofollow">SPES PVBLICA</a>. In the course of 232 the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> were slightly changed, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1895" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1895" rel="nofollow">Sol</a> from standing to advancing, <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1787" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1787" rel="nofollow">Jupiter</a> from left <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=arm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=arm" rel="nofollow">arm</a> downwards to left <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=arm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=arm" rel="nofollow">arm</a> extended holding <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1521&amp;pos=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1521&amp;pos=0" rel="nofollow">eagle</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mars" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mars" rel="nofollow">Mars</a> from right <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" rel="nofollow">leg</a> forward to left <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" rel="nofollow">leg</a> forward, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1894" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1894" rel="nofollow">Annona</a> from holding <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=anchor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=anchor" rel="nofollow">anchor</a> to holding <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornucopia" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornucopia" rel="nofollow">cornucopia</a>, finally <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1896" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1896" rel="nofollow">Spes</a> from right <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" rel="nofollow">leg</a> forward to left <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=leg" rel="nofollow">leg</a> forward. At the same time <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">Felicitas</a> seated was changed to <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">Felicitas</a> standing, or possibly <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=vice" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=vice" rel="nofollow">vice</a> versa, I <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=still" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=still" rel="nofollow">still</a> need <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=872&amp;pos=0&amp;open=872" rel="nofollow">hoard</a> or technical evidence to confirm the order of her two <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now both of these <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">Felicitas</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a> occur as <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a> with crescent, just as expected if they were the final two <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> of the reign. What about <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s only other <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" rel="nofollow">dupondius</a> with crescent, the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP? It <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=had" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=had" rel="nofollow">had</a> occurred to me earlier that this <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> mght match <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s two <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR</a> MON/MON RESTITVTA <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a>, with which <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> shares the peculiarity of being the only <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> of the reign that occur on <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a> only, not as usual on <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sestertii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sestertii" rel="nofollow">sestertii</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=asses" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=asses" rel="nofollow">asses</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=aurei" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=aurei" rel="nofollow">aurei</a>, and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=denarii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=denarii" rel="nofollow">denarii</a> as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR MON</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a> have <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s second <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obv." target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obv." rel="nofollow">obv.</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=legend" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=legend" rel="nofollow">legend</a>, <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" rel="nofollow">IMP</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" rel="nofollow">SEV</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">ALEXANDER</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" rel="nofollow">AVG</a>, which lasted from 228 until early in 231. <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=carson" rel="nofollow">Carson</a>, following <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=voetter" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=voetter" rel="nofollow">Voetter</a> and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=pink" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=pink" rel="nofollow">Pink</a>, assigned this <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" rel="nofollow">dupondius</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s to 228. But if that date were correct, and if <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" rel="nofollow">dupondius</a> belongs to the same issue, then surely <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a> of 228-231, on my scheme with <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=fecvnd%20avgvstae" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=fecvnd%20avgvstae" rel="nofollow">FECVND AVGVSTAE</a>, VENERI FELICI/VENVS <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felix" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felix" rel="nofollow">FELIX</a>, and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ivno%20avgvstae" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ivno%20avgvstae" rel="nofollow">IVNO AVGVSTAE</a>, would also have shown the crescent below her <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bust" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=bust" rel="nofollow">bust</a>, like the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a>? The fact that the middle bronzes of these <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a>, some of which were presumably <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a>, never show the crescent, suggests that they preceded rather than followed the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a>, and thus that <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> and <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR MON</a>, accepting my hypothesis that these two dupondius-only <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> were contemporaneous, must belong to the very end of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" rel="nofollow">IMP</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" rel="nofollow">SEV</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">ALEXANDER</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" rel="nofollow">AVG</a> issue, late 230 or early 231, rather than its first year, the second half of 228. In this case the use of the crescent to mark <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=mamaea" rel="nofollow">Mamaea</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondii" rel="nofollow">dupondii</a> was continuous: it was introduced on the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=felicitas" rel="nofollow">FELICITAS</a> TEMP <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> in late 230 or early 231, then continued in <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s Issue 8, which began very soon after <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=pivs" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=pivs" rel="nofollow">PIVS</a> was introduced into <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" rel="nofollow">his</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obverse" rel="nofollow">obverse</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=legend" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=legend" rel="nofollow">legend</a> early in 231. This idea about the possible redating of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR MON</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> just occurred to me today, as a result of reading and thinking about Bob C&#039;s message!</p><p><br /></p><p>There is an easy way to confirm or refute this hypothesis of mine: can <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obv." target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=obv." rel="nofollow">obv.</a> die links be found between <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor%20mon" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR MON</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> and any other <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=rev." target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=rev." rel="nofollow">rev.</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" rel="nofollow">his</a>, confirming or refuting my suggested reassignment of this <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> to late 230 or early 231? I <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1840" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1840" rel="nofollow">hope</a> Bob C. and others who read this and are interested in <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s coinage will keep an eye out for such die links between <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">Alexander</a>&#039;s <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=restitvtor" rel="nofollow">RESTITVTOR</a> MON/MON RESTITVTA <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> and other <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=dupondius" rel="nofollow">dupondius</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=rev." target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=rev." rel="nofollow">rev.</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1678" rel="nofollow">types</a> of <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=his" rel="nofollow">his</a> in the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=imp" rel="nofollow">IMP</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=sev" rel="nofollow">SEV</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1386" rel="nofollow">ALEXANDER</a> <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=avg" rel="nofollow">AVG</a> issue![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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