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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Julius Germanicus, post: 4128077, member: 80783&quot;]Yes, they all are!</p><p><br /></p><p>If we group them according to the obverse legend break at the tip of the laurel wreath, we have four distinct types (maybe dies):</p><p><br /></p><p>I. GERMAN IMP - AVG (Reverse with Eagle standard)</p><p><br /></p><p>#1 is from CNG and I do not doubt it is authentic.</p><p><br /></p><p>II. GERMAN IM - P AVG</p><p><br /></p><p>#2 is in the British Museum and I think they should be able to identify fakes</p><p>#3 was sold by Busso Peus which is a well known auction house, BUT</p><p>#4 was identified by CNG as <i>&quot;Paduan type. Later cast after Giovanni da Cavino,</i></p><p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; 1500-1570. Cf. Johnson &amp; Martini 1530-44 (for type); Klawans 4&quot;</i></p><p><font size="3">&nbsp; &nbsp; </font></p><p>III. GERMA - N IMP AVG</p><p><br /></p><p>#5 is in the Harvard Art Museum but they may not be experts in this field</p><p>#6 was sold by Myntkompaniet/AB Philea which may not be an expert in ancients</p><p>#7 was sold by Bertolami Fine Arts as <i>&quot;Paduan Medal. Later Cast after Giovanni da</i></p><p><i>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Cavino, Klavans 4&quot; </i></p><p>here is another one from the same obverse die:</p><p>#10 sold by dealer Edgar L. Owen</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1069200[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>IV. GERMAN - IMP AVG (with a dot in the middle)</p><p><br /></p><p>#8 sold by auction house Gerhard Hirsch</p><p>#9 sold by auction Hose Dix Noonan Webb Ltd.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>These ten (or&nbsp; eight, if you discount #4 and 7) are all the (supposedly) genuine specimens of RIC 141 that I could find.</p><p><br /></p><p>Are CNG better experts than the British Museum and Bertolami better than Boston?</p><p>Note that Cavino´s original design, Lawrence 28, Klawans 4, (also GERMAN -IMP AVG like group IV) omits the P in TR P which is however present in all the OP coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1069202[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If am right about the obverse die matches (I may not be), would this point to the conclusion that the coins in groups II and III are likely either ALL genuine or ALL forgeries?</p><p><br /></p><p>And is there really a difference between the Eagle and the Trophy and if so, what is it that Mars carries on his stick on the Sestertii of groups II, III and IV respectively?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I thought the same and just received the news that OP coin #9 is mine now <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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