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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2345988, member: 24314"][USER=44004]@Mainebill[/USER]</p><p><br /></p><p>Where to start? How about this: IMO, I cannot see any reason to send the pictured coins in for slabbing. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is some unsolicited "tough love." IMO PGCS got most of it right. Any collector/dealer here who thinks PCGS was "brutal" needs to stop buying "raw" coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just curious, how many times have you sent a "details coin" from one service and got it "straight" at another? Have your "hits" made you more money than the wasted fees? </p><p><br /></p><p>With the 1858-S, there is room for discussion. The photos are blurred; yet my first impression is the coin is not worth slabbing due to low grade, unattractiveness, and ED. I do not see any damage on the blurred image. If you think you can dip this coin and make it better...I won't go there.</p><p><br /></p><p>You need to study John's more constructive, and kinder words as I just removed most of what I wrote here at first. Because I don't suffer long-time, supposedly expert dealers whining about TPGS opinions when the whiners and those in agreement with them NEED TO LEARN HOW TO GRADE FOR THEMSELVES! Opinions are plenty...hopefully we'll see more useful ones from more knowledgeable posters.</p><p><br /></p><p>Next: There has been an influx of EXTREMELY DECPTIVE counterfeits - especially in the Large cent series. I was informed THIS MORNING that at least one TPGS HAS BEEN working closely with EAC to unmask the new fakes, many of which have already slipped past the TPGS. In many cases, the fakes have been circulated, corroded, recolored and beat up. AS WITH ANY BRAND NEW VERY DECEPTIVE FAKE - FROM THE BEGINING OF COIN AUTHENTICATION SERVICES (1971) in this country - THE FIRST FEW ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, SLIP PAST. Hang on because you all have not seen ANYTHING YET. I promise that. The TPGS are running scared but just for now! They are our best defense against counterfeiting.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>NOTE: TPGS are like computers, JUNK IN/JUNK OUT <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2345988, member: 24314"][USER=44004]@Mainebill[/USER] Where to start? How about this: IMO, I cannot see any reason to send the pictured coins in for slabbing. Here is some unsolicited "tough love." IMO PGCS got most of it right. Any collector/dealer here who thinks PCGS was "brutal" needs to stop buying "raw" coins. Just curious, how many times have you sent a "details coin" from one service and got it "straight" at another? Have your "hits" made you more money than the wasted fees? With the 1858-S, there is room for discussion. The photos are blurred; yet my first impression is the coin is not worth slabbing due to low grade, unattractiveness, and ED. I do not see any damage on the blurred image. If you think you can dip this coin and make it better...I won't go there. You need to study John's more constructive, and kinder words as I just removed most of what I wrote here at first. Because I don't suffer long-time, supposedly expert dealers whining about TPGS opinions when the whiners and those in agreement with them NEED TO LEARN HOW TO GRADE FOR THEMSELVES! Opinions are plenty...hopefully we'll see more useful ones from more knowledgeable posters. Next: There has been an influx of EXTREMELY DECPTIVE counterfeits - especially in the Large cent series. I was informed THIS MORNING that at least one TPGS HAS BEEN working closely with EAC to unmask the new fakes, many of which have already slipped past the TPGS. In many cases, the fakes have been circulated, corroded, recolored and beat up. AS WITH ANY BRAND NEW VERY DECEPTIVE FAKE - FROM THE BEGINING OF COIN AUTHENTICATION SERVICES (1971) in this country - THE FIRST FEW ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, SLIP PAST. Hang on because you all have not seen ANYTHING YET. I promise that. The TPGS are running scared but just for now! They are our best defense against counterfeiting. NOTE: TPGS are like computers, JUNK IN/JUNK OUT :kiss:[/QUOTE]
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