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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2453950, member: 24314&quot;]GREAT POST!</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Standards have dropped.&nbsp; Everyone knows that.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. I know/have known quite a few TPG&#039;s and at least five TPGS Finalizers.&nbsp; NO ONE&nbsp; has ever even hinted to me they are told how to grade.&nbsp; To become a grader you either need to be &quot;connected&quot; or you need to be referred and tested to see if you can make the cut.&nbsp; I myself tried to get a position at ANACS in CO long ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>3.&nbsp; Company &quot;standards&quot; is a moving target...they can change SLIGHTLY with the market.&nbsp; Graders know how to grade, that&#039;s why they were hired in the first place.&nbsp; If their opinions differ too much from the finalizers they are either let go or given some instruction.&nbsp; For example:&nbsp; If I were calling all the old AU-58 Saints (from the 1970&#039;s - 80&#039;s) AU due to my personal standards rather than MS-62; I would be shown the &quot;company line&quot; for acceptable high point rub.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>4. The &quot;Boss&quot; finalizer is the one who sets the standards.&nbsp; A &quot;boss&quot; can have a bad day or week as they are human.&nbsp; That&#039;s why we can find under-graded, and over-graded coins in slabs.</p><p><br /></p><p>5. TPGS&#039;s are not out to get us.&nbsp; They don&#039;t have meetings to adjust grades.&nbsp; While everyone claims/or is certain that major collections, rarities, and major clients get a break on occasion; that would not be the best business practice to pursue on a very large scale.&nbsp;&nbsp; What can happen is a major client can put heat on the company to get better grades.&nbsp; It is like a baseball manager arguing with the umpire.&nbsp; That MAY influence the boss a little but the bottom line is this:&nbsp; The pain in the butt needs the TPGS as much as they need his business. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>2</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is pure uninformed nonsense.&nbsp; IMO, &quot;Ordered&quot; is a very bad choice of words.&nbsp; The ENTIRE NUMISMATIC COMUNITY except for old time hold outs such as myself HAS BEEN GRADING AU COINS AS UNC FOR DECADES.&nbsp; Many years before PCGS was a gleam in Hall&#039;s eye!</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider this, all the YN&#039;s and present day collectors are being trained in the &quot;Loose&quot; standard for Unc as it exists today.&nbsp; In ten years or so &quot;no trace of wear&quot; will be a footnote in the grading guide because it is not followed as a standard even today![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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