Series 1928 silver certificates

Kudos to the poster who first identified these as fake - something I even missed!

It has nothing to do with the alignment of the serial numbers, as there can be variances in how horizontal the whole number can be, and even in the alignment of the individual digits to one another.

Here is the foolproof reason these two notes are fake, or photoshopped, as another poster revealed: The plate positions are not the actual ones these two serials would have been printed on. The J00000001B note should have been pp A (as all #1 notes should), and the J01230123B note should be pp I.

In the pattern that 12-subject notes were printed, the relationship between the serial number and the plate position is infallible, and is a foolproof determiner of the authenticity of a note.

 

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that first bill is definitely been photoshopped. there is no doubt about that. you notice the poster has not been back since the post. i call boulder dash

 

Infallible except according to Numbers (who IS close to infallible on the subject), "There's no way to determine from the serial number whether a note will be from the left half of the sheet (A-B-C-D-E-F) or the right half (G-H-I-J-K-L)". In either case, that J01230123B note should be either in position C or I and definitely not H as BOTH of those notes are. There's a good reason both of them are in position H...they are both the exact same note with the serial number changed. If you open an image of each in separate tabs on your browser and flip back and forth you'll see the notes are identical.

 

Dursin - I stand corrected in my explanation thanks to you. I was hung up on the plate positions of the notes displayed.

No, you cannot determine the actual plate letter, but the position (as in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6) is infallible. I should have said the J01230123B note should be C or I.

 

Yeah, and the teens here are awesome... lol

 

Yes TM i should not group all the YN's here at CT with the group of buggers who like to post thread such as this!

Thank you for pointing that out!!!

 

No problem!
I like to think of us, as untypical teens

 

wow im probably the youngest and least experienced collector in this forum and i know the easiest way to spot this junk. my desktop pc has an lcd monitor "not sure if the tube type monitors have the same effect" but when you lower your head below the bottom of the monitor you can cleary see things like this. the original image gets darker as your head lowers and then the photoshopped items clearly stand out, try it now and see if you catch my drift :whistle:

 

my LCD monitors dont have that effect. regardless of the anlge i look at, the screen stays the same.

But, that you found that trick on your monitor is cool lol an easy way to spot doctored images

 

Thanks

 

Never even thought of that!!!
If I would have actually did what you said, right when I saw the picture, I would have said something about the box around the serial numbers..
Quite a nice idea, to find doctored images, THANKS

 

No problem, I guess the guy just wants some attention, or something.

 

Where did he go??? (thread starter)

 

Wow...for those who took the time to read this thread....it looks like the "Johnny Fairplay" of CoinTalk has returned!!
http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t32242-12/#post604359

 

let both threads die, fakers like this feed ont he attention.