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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2851440, member: 19463"]These coins are great for people who like to seek out die links. There are some that are known only from one die pair but more that share dies with other types as Martin demonstrated above. This shows that those two coins were made around the same time in the same place unless we can find something odd that suggests otherwise. One theory that will never be proven but that explains all the die links. What if (wild guess follows) that each day the obverse dies and the reverse dies were locked up separately and each morning they were passed out randomly to striking teams. After hours work would require cooperation between an obverse person and a reverse person. This theory makes sense when to see some obverse dies used with several reverses. The most I have seen is over a dozen but I do not own many with that obverse so all you see here is my set of six reverses used with the same obverse.</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/die03.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>I no longer believe this theory but I do not have a good one to replace it. If this were the explanation we should have more examples of one reverse used with several obverses. Lets trot out another wild guess: Each night all reverse dies in use were destroyed but the obverses were kept. That would do even more to prevent after hours striking but would require a night shift engraver to cut a replacement in time for opening. That one is too far fetched for me even. Better brains need to be storming before this one is settled. Where were these coins struck? Traditional wisdom placed the mint at Emesa. Some suspect a mint operation travelling with the army. If anyone knows, they have not yet tried let alone convinced me. </p><p><br /></p><p>We have to be careful not to jump to conclusions as to what our evidence proves as opposed to only suggests. The paper that figures this out will have trouble when it comes time for 'peer review'. Where will they dig up the peers? Being an expert in the Rome mint coins of any period will hardly qualify someone to follow all the oddities of this group of coins. The best we can do is wait for a hobbyist (known or unknown to us) to figure out the meaningful characteristics and identify the random happenings. One expert has denied there is any meaning to the one to three dots following the reverse legends of some coins (who here noticed them in the above samples?). I can not prove him wrong. </p><p><br /></p><p>Are there a similar opportunities for study in the coinage of other rulers? I can't prove that either. </p><p><img src="http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/magic-8-ball-150x150.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2851440, member: 19463"]These coins are great for people who like to seek out die links. There are some that are known only from one die pair but more that share dies with other types as Martin demonstrated above. This shows that those two coins were made around the same time in the same place unless we can find something odd that suggests otherwise. One theory that will never be proven but that explains all the die links. What if (wild guess follows) that each day the obverse dies and the reverse dies were locked up separately and each morning they were passed out randomly to striking teams. After hours work would require cooperation between an obverse person and a reverse person. This theory makes sense when to see some obverse dies used with several reverses. The most I have seen is over a dozen but I do not own many with that obverse so all you see here is my set of six reverses used with the same obverse. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/die03.jpg[/IMG] I no longer believe this theory but I do not have a good one to replace it. If this were the explanation we should have more examples of one reverse used with several obverses. Lets trot out another wild guess: Each night all reverse dies in use were destroyed but the obverses were kept. That would do even more to prevent after hours striking but would require a night shift engraver to cut a replacement in time for opening. That one is too far fetched for me even. Better brains need to be storming before this one is settled. Where were these coins struck? Traditional wisdom placed the mint at Emesa. Some suspect a mint operation travelling with the army. If anyone knows, they have not yet tried let alone convinced me. We have to be careful not to jump to conclusions as to what our evidence proves as opposed to only suggests. The paper that figures this out will have trouble when it comes time for 'peer review'. Where will they dig up the peers? Being an expert in the Rome mint coins of any period will hardly qualify someone to follow all the oddities of this group of coins. The best we can do is wait for a hobbyist (known or unknown to us) to figure out the meaningful characteristics and identify the random happenings. One expert has denied there is any meaning to the one to three dots following the reverse legends of some coins (who here noticed them in the above samples?). I can not prove him wrong. Are there a similar opportunities for study in the coinage of other rulers? I can't prove that either. [IMG]http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/magic-8-ball-150x150.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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