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<p>[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 4364208, member: 96898"]Thanks for the link to your very informative webpage, [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p>This fourrée siglos might still fool somebody at first sight. Yet, its low weight as well as two small spots on the rim where the silver plating has broken give it away. Also, it lacks the characteristic heavy wear and punchmarks seen on most sigloi. Maybe it was discovered to be a forgery early in its circulation life and thus discarded?</p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1103095[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3">"Artaxerxes II – Darius III, Achaemenid Empire" (probably a regional type of Lydia), fourrée siglos, ca. 375–336 BC. Obv: Great King kneeling left, holding dagger and bow, three pellets on chest. Rev: irregular punch. 14.4mm, 4.92g. Ref: Carradice 1987, type IV C (prototype).</font></p><p><br /></p><p>Serrated edges on Republican denarii are often explained as an anti-forgery measure. Yet, if that was the case, it obviously didn't work so well. Here are a serrated fourrée as well as a corresponding official coin. I wonder how the former was produced. Also, note the difference in weight.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1103099[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Republic, moneyer C. Naevius Balbus, fourrée denarius serratus, 79 BC, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: Diademed head of Venus right, SC behind. Rev: Victory in triga right, C NAE BALB in exergue. 16mm, 3.11g. Ref: RRC 382/1 (prototype).</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1103097[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3">Roman Republic, moneyer C. Naevius Balbus, denarius serratus, 79 BC, Rome mint. Obv: diademed head of Venus right, SC behind. Rev: Victory in triga right, C NAE BALB in exergue; above, CLXXXX. 17mm, 3.72g. Ref: Crawford 382/1b. Ex Artemide, e-Live Auktion 10, lot 256.</font></p><p><br /></p><p>The Republican "denarius" below has a relatively thick silver plating. I can see it withstanding some wear and scratching or even light probing with a punchmark. The silver on the Septimius Severus, on the other hand, is much thinner than tin foil. I assume that these where produced using different techniques, as [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] elaborates on on his website.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1103098[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="3">Roman Republic, moneyer: Marcus Cipius M. f., fourrée denarius, 115–114 BC, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: Helmeted head of Roma r.; before, M CIPI M F upwards; behind, X. Rev: Victory in biga r., holding reins in l. hand and palm-branch tied with fillet in r. hand; below, rudder; in exergue, ROMA. 17mm, 2.95g. Ref: RRC 289/1 (prototype).</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]1103096[/ATTACH] </font></p><p><font size="3">Septimius Severus, Roman Empire, fourrée denarius, 198–202 AD, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, head of Septimius Severus, laureate, r. Rev: VICTORIAE AVGG FEL, Victory flying l., holding wreath, shield to l. 17mm, 2.2g. Ref: RIC IV.1 144b (prototype).</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Orielensis, post: 4364208, member: 96898"]Thanks for the link to your very informative webpage, [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]! This fourrée siglos might still fool somebody at first sight. Yet, its low weight as well as two small spots on the rim where the silver plating has broken give it away. Also, it lacks the characteristic heavy wear and punchmarks seen on most sigloi. Maybe it was discovered to be a forgery early in its circulation life and thus discarded? [SIZE=3] [ATTACH=full]1103095[/ATTACH] "Artaxerxes II – Darius III, Achaemenid Empire" (probably a regional type of Lydia), fourrée siglos, ca. 375–336 BC. Obv: Great King kneeling left, holding dagger and bow, three pellets on chest. Rev: irregular punch. 14.4mm, 4.92g. Ref: Carradice 1987, type IV C (prototype).[/SIZE] Serrated edges on Republican denarii are often explained as an anti-forgery measure. Yet, if that was the case, it obviously didn't work so well. Here are a serrated fourrée as well as a corresponding official coin. I wonder how the former was produced. Also, note the difference in weight. [ATTACH=full]1103099[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Republic, moneyer C. Naevius Balbus, fourrée denarius serratus, 79 BC, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: Diademed head of Venus right, SC behind. Rev: Victory in triga right, C NAE BALB in exergue. 16mm, 3.11g. Ref: RRC 382/1 (prototype). [ATTACH=full]1103097[/ATTACH] Roman Republic, moneyer C. Naevius Balbus, denarius serratus, 79 BC, Rome mint. Obv: diademed head of Venus right, SC behind. Rev: Victory in triga right, C NAE BALB in exergue; above, CLXXXX. 17mm, 3.72g. Ref: Crawford 382/1b. Ex Artemide, e-Live Auktion 10, lot 256.[/SIZE] The Republican "denarius" below has a relatively thick silver plating. I can see it withstanding some wear and scratching or even light probing with a punchmark. The silver on the Septimius Severus, on the other hand, is much thinner than tin foil. I assume that these where produced using different techniques, as [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] elaborates on on his website. [ATTACH=full]1103098[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Roman Republic, moneyer: Marcus Cipius M. f., fourrée denarius, 115–114 BC, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: Helmeted head of Roma r.; before, M CIPI M F upwards; behind, X. Rev: Victory in biga r., holding reins in l. hand and palm-branch tied with fillet in r. hand; below, rudder; in exergue, ROMA. 17mm, 2.95g. Ref: RRC 289/1 (prototype). [ATTACH=full]1103096[/ATTACH] Septimius Severus, Roman Empire, fourrée denarius, 198–202 AD, Rome mint (prototype). Obv: L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, head of Septimius Severus, laureate, r. Rev: VICTORIAE AVGG FEL, Victory flying l., holding wreath, shield to l. 17mm, 2.2g. Ref: RIC IV.1 144b (prototype).[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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