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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3078169, member: 85693"]I just got a couple of low-grade Roman copper/brass coins that I've been having a lot of fun tracking down. There's been a lot of posts about weight differences between the various denominations through time - these two are sort of an interesting case study for wobbly weights, I thought (or, I have my attributions wrong).</p><p><br /></p><p>That these are almost the same diameter is interesting too, although the SS is brass (you can see this on the bust where the patina is worn away), while the Elagabalus is more like pure copper. When new, I am guessing it would be much easier to tell the denominations apart (I assume these circulated around the same time).</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Septimius Severus Dupondius (RIC 697):</b> weighs only 8.97 grams. I thought for sure it was an as, but the bust is clearly radiate, and there doesn't seem to be a ROMAE AETERNAE except for the dupondius. This appears to be a fairly scarce coin, not in Wildwinds, and I could find only 3 others - 2 in the British Museum weigh around 12 grams. A nice one in a French auction is lighter than mine (though less worn): 7.89 grams.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Elagabalus As (RIC 341):</b> weighs 11.75 grams. Numismatics.org shows this as being pretty much the average weights (thought there were not a lot of samples).</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a somewhat new area for me (I really got into Roman AEs only a little over a year ago). I know there's been lots of interesting posts on weights/size theories and examples. Hope this isn't plowing over old territory, but I'd like to see some other Severan AEs, weights and 3rd century chaos theories, etc....</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]774610[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]774611[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Septimius Severus </b></p><p><b>Rome Mint - Æ Dupondius</b></p><p><b>(c. 195 A.D.)</b></p><p>L SEPT SEV PERT [AVG IMP V], radiate head right / [ROMAE AETERN]AE <strike></strike></p><p><strike>C, Roma seated left on shield, holding Victory in right hand, spear in left hand.</strike></p><p><strike>RIC 697; BMC/RE 139.</strike></p><p><strike>(8.97 grams / 24 mm)</strike></p><p><strike><b><br /></b></strike></p><p><strike><b><b>Elagabalus Æ As</b></b></strike></p><p><strike><b>(c. 219-220 A.D.)</b></strike></p><p><strike><b>Rome Mint </b></strike></p><p><strike>IMP CAES M AVR ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, laureate draped bust right /ADVENTVS AVGVSTI, SCbelow, emperor on horseback left, holding baton.</strike></p><p><strike>RIC 341; Cohen 7; BMC 365.</strike></p><p><strike>(11.75 grams / 25 mm)</strike>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 3078169, member: 85693"]I just got a couple of low-grade Roman copper/brass coins that I've been having a lot of fun tracking down. There's been a lot of posts about weight differences between the various denominations through time - these two are sort of an interesting case study for wobbly weights, I thought (or, I have my attributions wrong). That these are almost the same diameter is interesting too, although the SS is brass (you can see this on the bust where the patina is worn away), while the Elagabalus is more like pure copper. When new, I am guessing it would be much easier to tell the denominations apart (I assume these circulated around the same time). [B]Septimius Severus Dupondius (RIC 697):[/B] weighs only 8.97 grams. I thought for sure it was an as, but the bust is clearly radiate, and there doesn't seem to be a ROMAE AETERNAE except for the dupondius. This appears to be a fairly scarce coin, not in Wildwinds, and I could find only 3 others - 2 in the British Museum weigh around 12 grams. A nice one in a French auction is lighter than mine (though less worn): 7.89 grams. [B]Elagabalus As (RIC 341):[/B] weighs 11.75 grams. Numismatics.org shows this as being pretty much the average weights (thought there were not a lot of samples). This is a somewhat new area for me (I really got into Roman AEs only a little over a year ago). I know there's been lots of interesting posts on weights/size theories and examples. Hope this isn't plowing over old territory, but I'd like to see some other Severan AEs, weights and 3rd century chaos theories, etc.... [ATTACH=full]774610[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]774611[/ATTACH] [B]Septimius Severus Rome Mint - Æ Dupondius (c. 195 A.D.)[/B] L SEPT SEV PERT [AVG IMP V], radiate head right / [ROMAE AETERN]AE [S] C, Roma seated left on shield, holding Victory in right hand, spear in left hand. RIC 697; BMC/RE 139. (8.97 grams / 24 mm) [B] [B]Elagabalus Æ As[/B] (c. 219-220 A.D.) Rome Mint [/B] IMP CAES M AVR ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, laureate draped bust right /ADVENTVS AVGVSTI, SCbelow, emperor on horseback left, holding baton. RIC 341; Cohen 7; BMC 365. (11.75 grams / 25 mm)[/S][/QUOTE]
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