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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7916470, member: 19463"]27. As we near the end of the month, I have to be careful to insure certain favorites make the list. Earlier a few 'less than official' coins were shown including a fourree. Today's coin is from the group that are not/can not be official but that are not plated. The 'profit' in making them would have been smaller leading us to the belief that they were made to serve as money in a place that was short on change. Today, two of our local grocery stores have posted signs saying cash payments must be in exact change since they can not get enough coins to support business as usual. The Credit Union we use told me that they have no shortage of coins but they do not have commercial accounts of the supermarket size. It is a bit confusing. So is my coin for day 27.</p><p>Septimius Severus, AR denarius, IMPCAELSEP SEVPERTAVG / COS III PP Mars, bearded, standing right, ex PeteB, 1998</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1367883[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I consider this coin to be of reasonable style but it is just not a match for any of the regular, recognized mints. The metal seems (has not been assayed) similar to official coinage but it is a bit thin/light at 2.2g (as are some coins of Alexandria). Most strange is the combination of the 'First Legend' obverse (193 at Rome but as late as 196 at Alexandria) with the date COS III (202 and later when Rome was the only mint). There are many unofficial coins that will never make complete sense. This is one that happens to have been cut by a better than usual craftsperson. </p><p><br /></p><p>First back-up position is a copy of the standard Rome mint type showing Hercules. While the coin has a small flan losing much legend, there is no reason not to believe the obverse was correct for the issue L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP IIII but what remains of the reverse legend is IOEPES. The die cutter replaced the lion skin with a simple cloth. The bow is a bit strange reminding me of a Rhythmic Gymnastics ribbon but I'm sure that that thought is colored by this being an Olympic year. 3.0g. ex. Brian Kritt, 1998. If anyone has any idea what IOEPES was meant to be, please share. [ATTACH=full]1367895[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Compare it to a standard issue Rome mint coin HERCVLI DEFENS showing a perfectly fine lion and recurved bow worthy of the god. 3.3g. Stacks (Coin Galleries), 1987. This would be a nice coin were it not for the weak strike on the laurel wreath and Hercules legs. There was not enough metal to fill both dies.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1367896[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7916470, member: 19463"]27. As we near the end of the month, I have to be careful to insure certain favorites make the list. Earlier a few 'less than official' coins were shown including a fourree. Today's coin is from the group that are not/can not be official but that are not plated. The 'profit' in making them would have been smaller leading us to the belief that they were made to serve as money in a place that was short on change. Today, two of our local grocery stores have posted signs saying cash payments must be in exact change since they can not get enough coins to support business as usual. The Credit Union we use told me that they have no shortage of coins but they do not have commercial accounts of the supermarket size. It is a bit confusing. So is my coin for day 27. Septimius Severus, AR denarius, IMPCAELSEP SEVPERTAVG / COS III PP Mars, bearded, standing right, ex PeteB, 1998 [ATTACH=full]1367883[/ATTACH] I consider this coin to be of reasonable style but it is just not a match for any of the regular, recognized mints. The metal seems (has not been assayed) similar to official coinage but it is a bit thin/light at 2.2g (as are some coins of Alexandria). Most strange is the combination of the 'First Legend' obverse (193 at Rome but as late as 196 at Alexandria) with the date COS III (202 and later when Rome was the only mint). There are many unofficial coins that will never make complete sense. This is one that happens to have been cut by a better than usual craftsperson. First back-up position is a copy of the standard Rome mint type showing Hercules. While the coin has a small flan losing much legend, there is no reason not to believe the obverse was correct for the issue L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP IIII but what remains of the reverse legend is IOEPES. The die cutter replaced the lion skin with a simple cloth. The bow is a bit strange reminding me of a Rhythmic Gymnastics ribbon but I'm sure that that thought is colored by this being an Olympic year. 3.0g. ex. Brian Kritt, 1998. If anyone has any idea what IOEPES was meant to be, please share. [ATTACH=full]1367895[/ATTACH] Compare it to a standard issue Rome mint coin HERCVLI DEFENS showing a perfectly fine lion and recurved bow worthy of the god. 3.3g. Stacks (Coin Galleries), 1987. This would be a nice coin were it not for the weak strike on the laurel wreath and Hercules legs. There was not enough metal to fill both dies. [ATTACH=full]1367896[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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