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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7893533, member: 19463"]18. My favorite Septimius with Apollo is this AE25 from Nikopolis ad Istrum showing a variation of the Apollo Sauroktonos type. Ordinarily we see young Apollo reaching out to 'grab' the lizard on a tree trunk but here his left hand (viewer's right) is steadying a thinner plant while his right (viewer's left) is pulled back holding a smaller branch. I have seen this described as a dart with which Apollo intended to kill the lizard (right of his knees?) but I am less than convinced as to this detail. Is he using this smaller branch to 'swat' the critter? We see what we want to see. Perhaps the best part of this coin is what I consider to be a portrait of fine style showing Septimius looking a bit tired. I purchased this coin from PeteB in 1999. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1362250[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>PeteB threw in a smaller and more worn example as a bonus. It is the most oval (15x20mm) of all the Nikopolis assaria I have seen but still shows the 'darting' pose to advantage. Here the lizard is a bit higher up the branch and is shown from the top rather than the side.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1362253[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>My most clear Sauroktonos is a Geta which has been shown on CT many times. It is a well executed 'grabber' showing the right hand inching slowly toward the lizard. It does not belong here since it has a Geta obverse but I have never seen a Septimius version with style this good. Please post yours.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1362262[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The 'grabber' pose is what we see on the version in the Louvre (a Roman copy - the original is lost). I do not believe the name Sauroktonos (lizard killer) is appropriate here since the boy is trying to catch the lizard rather than kill it. Boys of my age bracket from the regions with lizards (anoles in the southern US) occurred tried to grab/catch such beasts, usually to be released. Art historians see what they want to see. They want to show Apollo in training for his killing of Python. I see a boy grabbing an small lizard.</p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Apollo_Saurocton_Louvre.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>The coins are better evidence of the intent of Praxiteles in the original. On the Louvre copy, the left arm, the right hand and the lizard's head are modern restorations. My coins are as they survived without additions. I do believe the arm should be holding the tree trunk It bothers me that we have the different pose variations including the 'darter'. In the time of Septimius did the city of Nikopolis own two statues? Possibly. Were either of them the original? Probably not. Copies of great art from the past were very popular in that time. I would like to know what the original, original showed. Praxiteles was 700 years before Septimius. That is long enough time for several copies, modifications and repairs. Coins, we might add, were freed from the need for support braces made necessary by the bronze and marble media. </p><p>The Vatican has one, too. Art books tend to gloss over the matter of repairs and restorations. Coins, more likely, are what they are. We all see what we want to see. </p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Beeldhouwwerk_Apollo_Saurottono_ROMA_-_Museo_Vaticano%2C_Apollo_Saurottono_%28titel_op_object%29%2C_RP-F-F01141-ES.jpg/485px-Beeldhouwwerk_Apollo_Saurottono_ROMA_-_Museo_Vaticano%2C_Apollo_Saurottono_%28titel_op_object%29%2C_RP-F-F01141-ES.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7893533, member: 19463"]18. My favorite Septimius with Apollo is this AE25 from Nikopolis ad Istrum showing a variation of the Apollo Sauroktonos type. Ordinarily we see young Apollo reaching out to 'grab' the lizard on a tree trunk but here his left hand (viewer's right) is steadying a thinner plant while his right (viewer's left) is pulled back holding a smaller branch. I have seen this described as a dart with which Apollo intended to kill the lizard (right of his knees?) but I am less than convinced as to this detail. Is he using this smaller branch to 'swat' the critter? We see what we want to see. Perhaps the best part of this coin is what I consider to be a portrait of fine style showing Septimius looking a bit tired. I purchased this coin from PeteB in 1999. [ATTACH=full]1362250[/ATTACH] PeteB threw in a smaller and more worn example as a bonus. It is the most oval (15x20mm) of all the Nikopolis assaria I have seen but still shows the 'darting' pose to advantage. Here the lizard is a bit higher up the branch and is shown from the top rather than the side. [ATTACH=full]1362253[/ATTACH] My most clear Sauroktonos is a Geta which has been shown on CT many times. It is a well executed 'grabber' showing the right hand inching slowly toward the lizard. It does not belong here since it has a Geta obverse but I have never seen a Septimius version with style this good. Please post yours. [ATTACH=full]1362262[/ATTACH] The 'grabber' pose is what we see on the version in the Louvre (a Roman copy - the original is lost). I do not believe the name Sauroktonos (lizard killer) is appropriate here since the boy is trying to catch the lizard rather than kill it. Boys of my age bracket from the regions with lizards (anoles in the southern US) occurred tried to grab/catch such beasts, usually to be released. Art historians see what they want to see. They want to show Apollo in training for his killing of Python. I see a boy grabbing an small lizard. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Apollo_Saurocton_Louvre.jpg[/IMG] The coins are better evidence of the intent of Praxiteles in the original. On the Louvre copy, the left arm, the right hand and the lizard's head are modern restorations. My coins are as they survived without additions. I do believe the arm should be holding the tree trunk It bothers me that we have the different pose variations including the 'darter'. In the time of Septimius did the city of Nikopolis own two statues? Possibly. Were either of them the original? Probably not. Copies of great art from the past were very popular in that time. I would like to know what the original, original showed. Praxiteles was 700 years before Septimius. That is long enough time for several copies, modifications and repairs. Coins, we might add, were freed from the need for support braces made necessary by the bronze and marble media. The Vatican has one, too. Art books tend to gloss over the matter of repairs and restorations. Coins, more likely, are what they are. We all see what we want to see. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Beeldhouwwerk_Apollo_Saurottono_ROMA_-_Museo_Vaticano%2C_Apollo_Saurottono_%28titel_op_object%29%2C_RP-F-F01141-ES.jpg/485px-Beeldhouwwerk_Apollo_Saurottono_ROMA_-_Museo_Vaticano%2C_Apollo_Saurottono_%28titel_op_object%29%2C_RP-F-F01141-ES.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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