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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7889952, member: 19463"]16. Brockages of Septimius Severus are not all that common. I have only one example from 'Emesa'. A brockage results from a coin being unknowingly stuck in the top die and being used to strike the next coin. Students of coins consider them defective and, since they lack a reverse type, they do nothing to further our study of the series unless we consider them a sign that the pace of striking was fast enough that mistakes would happen. We do not know whether the ones that exist escaped detection or if mint policy considered them 'good enough for government work'. Students of coins address types; economists track weight standards; who cares about technical numismatics? I do but I am in the minority. Coin 16 here is a later period 'Emesa' denarius but we have no way of telling what reverse it missed out on having. Dies during this period were used with more than one reverse so even finding a die link to a normal coin would prove nothing. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1361325[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The 'Technical' part of me made me ask the question I have not seen addressed before (experts are asked to fill me in on this if there have been studies of which I am ignorant). This brockage was caused by the intervention of another coin. What happened to that other coin? I say that the second impact against the second blank should have squashed that obverse to some degree. How much? I do not know but I suspect/propose that the 'mother of a brockage' would look something like the coin below:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1361324[/ATTACH] </p><p>Here the reverse is well struck but the obverse is a bit flat looking. This could be just die wear. This could be just plain old wear for some reason affecting the coin more on that side. What my fanciful imagination sees here is an obverse somewhat normal on the upper left and distinctly more 'mushy' in the higher regions across the flan. What I would <u>love</u> to see is a brockage denarius of this slightly scarce IIC series obverse die. The unevenness of the weakness on this coin would suggest that the coin I seek would be imperfectly centered (as is my brockage) because only part of the coin made contact with the blank that was to become the brockage. I would expect the brockage to be clear on the AVG IIC part of the legend but not on the opposite L SEP side. I imagine many brockages were realized by the man holding the die at the last second but there is no stopping the swing of the hammerman. I also suspect that a word was uttered not taught in first year Greek (this was an Eastern mint so I doubt the swearing was in Latin). My education did not include deletable expletives of late second century Syria (or Cappadocia, if you accept the latest guesses). Did yours? I would enjoy seeing any other Septimius Severus brockages or any other coins that bear on my theory that each brockage must have had a 'mother' with equal but opposite characteristics. </p><p><br /></p><p>While I am not running out of Septimius coins, I am running short of real oddballs. Maybe I should show a few 'nice and normals'? That might be out of character for me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7889952, member: 19463"]16. Brockages of Septimius Severus are not all that common. I have only one example from 'Emesa'. A brockage results from a coin being unknowingly stuck in the top die and being used to strike the next coin. Students of coins consider them defective and, since they lack a reverse type, they do nothing to further our study of the series unless we consider them a sign that the pace of striking was fast enough that mistakes would happen. We do not know whether the ones that exist escaped detection or if mint policy considered them 'good enough for government work'. Students of coins address types; economists track weight standards; who cares about technical numismatics? I do but I am in the minority. Coin 16 here is a later period 'Emesa' denarius but we have no way of telling what reverse it missed out on having. Dies during this period were used with more than one reverse so even finding a die link to a normal coin would prove nothing. [ATTACH=full]1361325[/ATTACH] The 'Technical' part of me made me ask the question I have not seen addressed before (experts are asked to fill me in on this if there have been studies of which I am ignorant). This brockage was caused by the intervention of another coin. What happened to that other coin? I say that the second impact against the second blank should have squashed that obverse to some degree. How much? I do not know but I suspect/propose that the 'mother of a brockage' would look something like the coin below: [ATTACH=full]1361324[/ATTACH] Here the reverse is well struck but the obverse is a bit flat looking. This could be just die wear. This could be just plain old wear for some reason affecting the coin more on that side. What my fanciful imagination sees here is an obverse somewhat normal on the upper left and distinctly more 'mushy' in the higher regions across the flan. What I would [U]love[/U] to see is a brockage denarius of this slightly scarce IIC series obverse die. The unevenness of the weakness on this coin would suggest that the coin I seek would be imperfectly centered (as is my brockage) because only part of the coin made contact with the blank that was to become the brockage. I would expect the brockage to be clear on the AVG IIC part of the legend but not on the opposite L SEP side. I imagine many brockages were realized by the man holding the die at the last second but there is no stopping the swing of the hammerman. I also suspect that a word was uttered not taught in first year Greek (this was an Eastern mint so I doubt the swearing was in Latin). My education did not include deletable expletives of late second century Syria (or Cappadocia, if you accept the latest guesses). Did yours? I would enjoy seeing any other Septimius Severus brockages or any other coins that bear on my theory that each brockage must have had a 'mother' with equal but opposite characteristics. While I am not running out of Septimius coins, I am running short of real oddballs. Maybe I should show a few 'nice and normals'? That might be out of character for me.[/QUOTE]
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