Sept. Sev. draped and cuirassed

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Whilst I have a general focus on the eastern issues of Septimius Severus, I try not to buy much of his later eastern issues from "Laodicea-ad-Mare" unless they have something slightly unusal. I think this one counts and is worth sharing.

    I know that the coin has quite a few issues but I must admit that I didn't think I would own anything from these issues that wasn't just the plain head right.

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    Rev:– AEQVITA-TI AVGG, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopia
    Minted in Laodicea ad Mare. A.D. 201
    Reference(s) – RIC IV -; BMCRE -; RSC 22a

    Same dies as Arnold lot 5 and Barry Murphy SEV-169.

    2.57 gms, 18.24 mm. 330 degrees

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  3. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Nice find and really cool portrait. Thanks for sharing!
     
  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Interesting example. I can't help but think that many of the letters on both the obverse and reverse inscriptions are missing because of filled dies.
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    That's great, would love that bust type for him.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I find it interesting that you are more likely to find the fancier bust obverses on coins of the junior rulers than on the senior.
    Caracalla
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    There are, however, quite a few busts on Rome mint sestertii.
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that is a kool and unusual one of him @maridvnvm ..congrats! :)
     
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A neat coin!
     
  9. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Recently I got this tetradrachm from the mint of Laodicea. I saw in at the NYINC didn't buy it but the coin kept calling me and so finally I gave in and bought the coin. Very happy that I did laodicsseverus2.jpg
     
  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    @Terence Cheesman - A fantastic looking coin. I keep seeing these and would love to have a single example just for comparison.
     
  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I had originally believed my coin to be a die match to the Barry Murphy example. This is simply wrong. The legend spacing is different.

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    @dougsmith The seniors seem to have largely kept their fancier busts for aureii. I find this quite a puzzle.
     
  12. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Very nice coin maridvnvm.
    Yesterday, I bought this denarius of Septimius. But if someone can help me out of which mint is (Rome, Emesa..) and which number in RIC. Thanks.
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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Obv:–IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev:– TR P III IMP V COS Gamma(sic)I, Captive, wearing peaked cap, seated on ground, hands tied behind back, in front bow, quiver, shields
    Minted in Emesa. A.D. 195
    Reference(s) – Cohen 659. RIC 433 (Scarce).

    All examples I have seen have the Gamma for I
     
  14. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
     
  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I own one like yours but also have this variety.

    Obv:– IMP CAE L SPE (sic) SEV - PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev:– TR P III IMP V COS II, captive seated right with peaked cap, one hand behind, one raised to head, quiver and shields behind, curved sword in ex

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  16. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Die cutter was more mirceful to captive, presented with free hands.
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine are not as nice as Martins but match in the hand to head on the sword type variation. I agree on the gamma for I also.
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    More common are the standards type with similar legends. Note the left captive seems to have his hand to head while the right is bound behind. Significance?
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  18. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    @maridvnvm nice draped and cuirassed bust, while I don't have an "AIQUITI" to share, I have a small number of Septimii most of which have some sort of trophy or captive theme. This first coin I read as INVICITO IMP is perhaps interesting. I am very uncertain on mint, dating, and correct references, any corrections to the attributions are appreciated:
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    AR Denarius Septimius Severus 193-211 AD Struck 194 AD
    Mint: eastern, Antioch/Laodicea mint (?)
    Obv: IMP CAE L SEP PERT AVG COS II, laureate head of Septimius Severus right
    Rev: INVICIT-O IMP, trophy
    Ref: BMC 365; RSC 232
    Size: 2.31g, 15.5mm
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    AR Denarius Septimius Severus 193-211 AD Struck 195 AD
    Mint: eastern, Antioch/Laodicea mint (?)
    Obv: IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev: T.R.P. III IMP V COS II, Captive seated right, hands bound behind back; shields, quiver, and bow before
    Size: 2.83g, 17.0mm
    Ref: RIC IV 433; BMCRE 406; RSC 659
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    AR Denarius, Septimius Severus 193-211 AD
    Mint: Rome, Struck AD 201
    Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG, Laureate head right.
    Rev: PART MAX P M TR P VIIII, Trophy flanked by two captives.
    Size: 3.41g, 19.0mm
    Ref: RIC 176
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    AR Denarius, Septimius Severus 193-211 AD
    Mint: Rome, Struck AD 201
    Obv: SEVERVS PIVS AVG, Laureate head right.
    Rev: PART MAX P M TR P X, trophy flanked by two captives
    Size: 2.94g, 18.0mm
    Ref: RIC 184, RSC 372
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2019
  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The INVICITO IMP is an error that I haven't seen before but there are many many error variations with this type.

    This COS II is traditionally allocated to Emesa

    The normal legend is INVICTO IMP
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    There are a few INVLCTO dies with IMP and even IMC

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    even shortened to INVICT IMP
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    These COS II coins were precended by longer legend variants
    INVICTO IMP TROPAEA
    AVG
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    AVG II CO
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    and is suspect that this COS II = INVICTO IMP TROPA.. is earler in the COS II series
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I believe you have seen it. I have shown mine several times but rather than calling that stroke an I I read it as a C over V error correction. They are the same die are they not?
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  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    They do look like the same die but the reading is clearer on yours. The number of variations is simply huge
     
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