Sept Sev Alexandrian legionary (upgrade)

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    This one arrived today. These are quite scarce and even though I already have an example from the same die pair I couldn't resist this one when it came up at a european auction house last week. The auction house somehow failed to identify it as Alexandrian and perhaps this is why there were no other bids.

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CAE L S-EP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– LEG III IT AVG, TR P COS in exergue, Legionary eagle between two standards
    Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194
    Reference:-- Cohen -. RIC -. BMCRE -.


    Here is my previous example:-

    I have a few other obverse die links with this probably being the nicest.

    Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
    Rev:– FIDEI LEG TR P COS II, Fides standing left holding Victory and standard
    Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 194
    Ref:– RIC 349

    2.25g. 18.71mm. 0o
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Lucky for you. I need to find one of these legionary types. Your Fides example is also quite nice. Congrats.
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Very nice! Congrats on the upgrade :).
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    A lovely addition, Martin.
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Great addition and quite the upgrade!
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    That coin is (IMHO) more than quite scarce with the reverse ending in AVG. The common variety Alexandria legionary ends in AVI and that one is at least scarce depending on how you count rarity on these things. I have no idea how many exist. While your new one is a definite upgrade overall, the old one is more clear on the AVG so is nothing to discard lightly. I have only one AVG. It is the Bickford-Smith specimen from the CNG sale and, therefore, special to me. He was my friend and introduced me to much of what I know about Alexandrian Septimius.
    Below are the more common AVI reverse coins.
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    Many coins of this issue have some legend loss but it is safe to assume AVI unless you have a die match to a known AVG coin.

    No discussion of this coin should omit pointing out the fact that many experts were slow to pick up on the existence of the Alexandria mint legionaries. Seaby's Roman Silver Coins Volume III, Septimius #262 illustrates the coin from the Arnold collection (Seaby 1984) which is clearly Alexandrian but copies the authors of RIC (Septimius #7) and BMC (Septimius #10) footnotes saying Cohen was in error listing the coin separately from the usual Rome mint LEG III ITAL coins. Cohen took the trouble to read the legends and seems to have had a coin that lost the final I. Experts still need to read clear coins and avoid assuming letters their coins lack.
    Barry Murphy had a coin SEV-341 that was clearly LEG IIII IT AVG but the fourth I was an error. I have no idea what happened to that coin. As a fan of the legionary series and of Alexandria, I would have been glad to give it a home but it was an error rather than a evidence of a legion that did not exist.

    Thanks for sharing your new coin. It is a winner!
  8. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great example!
  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Nice catch! My only Sep Sev Alexandrian is a relatively common one, but I'm glad to have it:

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