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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Penny Lady®, post: 925577, member: 16948&quot;]Doug, first of all, your arguments are getting into generalities, but we are discussing this particular coin, and I would like to keep it on track and not get into discussions about the TPG grading world, gradflation, or grading in general.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That being said, you&#039;re completely off base when you say that I am being influenced by wanting to own a higher graded coin.&nbsp; I am not &quot;buying into&quot; anything - I see coins for what they are, I look at and evaluate a ton of copper, both raw and certified.&nbsp; It is my business to see coins for what they are.&nbsp; And I admittedly see a lot of misgraded certified coins, I know what they look like - and I know what they are supposed to look like.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But in the case of this particular coin, humbly, Doug you are wrong and your arguments lack one big huge basis.&nbsp; They are based on other people&#039;s opinions of this coin.&nbsp; YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS COIN IN HAND AND I HAVE.&nbsp; So not even having seen the coin in hand makes your arguments lack merit and are not persuasive to me for that reason alone.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But in any event, this 1914-D completely deserves the MS65 grade, no matter what you say or think.&nbsp; I don&#039;t play the crack out game or the upgrade game with my coins.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, this is the ONLY coin I have EVER submitted to get a higer grade.&nbsp; This 1914-D is as nice, if not nicer than any of my MS65 coins - both in my personal collection and in my inventory.&nbsp; It has more pristine surfaces, a better strike, full luster, and nicer eye appeal than most MS65&#039;s I&#039;ve ever seen.&nbsp; I&#039;ll bet if you stood this coin up to 20 other MS65 graded copper coins, you&#039;d agree this one well deserves that grade.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Doug, I know you have an issue with thinking (or admitting) that you are wrong, so once again we will have to agree to disagree, because I know what I&#039;m talking about on this coin.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I understand you come from a different shall we say &quot;grading era&quot; when grading was more strict, and you disagree with how most graders grade coins these days.&nbsp; I get that.&nbsp; I learned to grade from someone in your &quot;era&quot; but &quot;grew up&quot; in a more modern grading era so perhaps my (and probably most anyone under the age of 60) criteria is more liberal than yours.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And by the way, I recently rode home on the plane from a show with several of the PCGS graders - their average age was 25!&nbsp; So do TPG&#039;s have lesser experienced graders - ABSOLUTELY![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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