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Message:: [QUOTE="illini420, post: 913660, member: 19423"]Not sure about the other companies but it is very tough to get PCGS to grade 65BN copper and it's near impossible to get 66BN. To illustrate this point, just need to look at the population reports... here's the pop data on the 1909 VDB which is a good case to look at given its relatively high mintage and the fact it was saved and available in high grades. 64BN=31165BN=10966BN=7 64RB=1,59665RB=75266RB=111 64RD=4,25565RD=4,20466RD=1,84367RD=201 Of course it likely plays into the numbers that many people are less likely to send in a nice BN coin than they are a full on RD example given the relative values.  But it's pretty clear that the company is more reluctant to give out the higher grades on BN coins than they are on the RD examples.  You can have a perfect looking BN with tons of luster that would grade 68 if it were a RD, but you'd probably be maxed out at 66BN. For those who were wondering, the 1914-D Lincoln has 43 examples in PCGS MS64BN and only 9 examples in PCGS MS65BN.[/QUOTE]