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<p>[QUOTE="Caesar_Augustus, post: 3098001, member: 87659"]Hello Friends from CoinTalk! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is my very first thread here, and, although I have been posting here on and off for the past year (it's been 1 year since I signed up), I haven't made much of a presence. So, just like you all share something with each other of numismatic interest, I would also like to share something with you, the Ancients Community. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I started collecting ancients almost 2 years ago when I did a quick Google search to study Roman Denarii, and found links to actual coins on eBay. This year, I became very interested in Byzantine coins and have been focusing mainly on them.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are several interesting Byzantine coins I acquired that were over stuck on previous issues. Doug Smith has an excellent write-up here: <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac70byz.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac70byz.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac70byz.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a part from Doug's write-up about the basics on overstrikes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is especially the case, with regards to the undertype being as clear as the newly struck design, for the coin I would like to share with you, but at the end. Firstly, here are some of my first Byzantine overstrikes, both Heraklios designs overstruck on those of Focas.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]783454[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Heraclius, AE Follis</b></p><p>612 - 613 A.D., Cyzicus Mint, 2nd Officina</p><p>10.92g, 29.0mm, 6H</p><p><b>Obverse</b>:<i> [DN hRACLI] PЄRP AVG,</i></p><p><i>Helmeted and cuirassed facing bust, holding globus cruciger and shield</i></p><p><b>Reverse</b>: -,</p><p><i>Large M between A/N/N/O and III (R.Y. 3), cross above, B below</i></p><p><b>Exergue</b>: KYZ</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Reference</b>: SBCV 839</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Overstruck on follis of Phocas, minted in Nikomedia</i></p><p><i>____________________________________</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>[ATTACH=full]783455[/ATTACH] </i></p><p><i><b>Heraclius, AE Follis</b></i></p><p>617 - 618 A.D., Thessaloniki Mint, 2nd Officina</p><p>9.69g, 33.0mm, 6H</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Obverse:</b> DN hERACLIЧS P P AVG,</p><p><i>Crowned and draped facing busts of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine, each holding globus cruciger, cross between</i></p><p><b>Reverse:</b> -,</p><p><i>Large M between A/N/N/O and ЧI/II (R.Y. 8), cross above, B below</i></p><p><b>Exergue:</b> ΘЄC</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Reference</b>: SBCV 824</p><p><br /></p><p><i><i>Overstruck on follis of Phocas, mint unsure.</i></i></p><p><br /></p><p>About 450 years later, the following coin showing the Roman Emperor Constantine X Ducas & the Empress Eudocia was overstruck on a Class B Anonymous Follis, which was struck over 30 years earlier. Apologies in advance, I noticed the obverse & reverse are reversed in the pictures. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> The obverse of the undertype is under the reverse of the "overtype".</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]783451[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Constantine X Ducas, AE Follis</b></p><p>1059 - 1067 A.D., Constantinople Mint, null Officina</p><p>11.10g, 29.8mm, 6H</p><p><b>Obverse:</b> [+ЄMMANOVHΛ/IC - XC],</p><p><i>Christ standing facing on footstool, wearing nimbus and holding Gospels</i></p><p><b>Reverse:</b> [+KWNT ΔK] ЄV[ΔK AVΓO],</p><p><i>Eudocia on left, wearing loros with kite-shaped lower panel and crown with cross and pendilia, Constantine on right, wearing loros and crown with cross and pendilia, both standing facing, holding labarum with cross-piece on shaft between them, standing on base and three steps, each places one hand on heart</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>What makes this coin very interesting is that both designs appear to be equally prominent. With little information, it would be hard to know which was overstruck on which. With no undertype, the coin should look like this (Taken from the <a href="http://labarum.info/lbr/show.php?coin=18530" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://labarum.info/lbr/show.php?coin=18530" rel="nofollow">Labarum database</a>).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]783453[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the coin rotated so that you can clearly see the Class B undertype.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]783459[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The undertype should look like this; my example of the Class B Anonymous follis.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]783450[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Anonymous</b>, <b>AE Follis</b></p><p>1028 - 1034 A.D., Constantinople Mint, null Officina</p><p>13.91g, 31.98mm, 6H</p><p><b>Obverse:</b> +ЄMMANOVHΛ/IC - XC,</p><p><i>Nimbate bust of Christ facing, square in each limb of cross; wearing pallium and collobium and holding book of Gospels</i></p><p><b>Reverse:</b> IS XS/bASILЄ/bASILЄ,</p><p><i>Legend in three lines divided by limbs of cross with dot at each extremity on three-stepped base</i></p><p><b>Class:</b> B</p><p><br /></p><p>In a few years after the overstruck coin was minted, coinage gets much worse as the Roman Empire faces its next several challenges. Out of the dust, Emperor Alexius I Komnenos rises up and enacts coinage reforms introducing BI Aspron Trachys. I have yet to see an overstrike on one of those.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope you guys enjoyed my very first thread on CoinTalk and the interesting overstrike that I am lucky to have acquired from Warren a few months ago. I'd love to see all your overstrikes! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Caesar_Augustus, post: 3098001, member: 87659"]Hello Friends from CoinTalk! :) This is my very first thread here, and, although I have been posting here on and off for the past year (it's been 1 year since I signed up), I haven't made much of a presence. So, just like you all share something with each other of numismatic interest, I would also like to share something with you, the Ancients Community. :) I started collecting ancients almost 2 years ago when I did a quick Google search to study Roman Denarii, and found links to actual coins on eBay. This year, I became very interested in Byzantine coins and have been focusing mainly on them. There are several interesting Byzantine coins I acquired that were over stuck on previous issues. Doug Smith has an excellent write-up here: [url]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac70byz.html[/url] Here's a part from Doug's write-up about the basics on overstrikes. This is especially the case, with regards to the undertype being as clear as the newly struck design, for the coin I would like to share with you, but at the end. Firstly, here are some of my first Byzantine overstrikes, both Heraklios designs overstruck on those of Focas. [ATTACH=full]783454[/ATTACH] [B]Heraclius, AE Follis[/B] 612 - 613 A.D., Cyzicus Mint, 2nd Officina 10.92g, 29.0mm, 6H [B]Obverse[/B]:[I] [DN hRACLI] PЄRP AVG, Helmeted and cuirassed facing bust, holding globus cruciger and shield[/I] [B]Reverse[/B]: -, [I]Large M between A/N/N/O and III (R.Y. 3), cross above, B below[/I] [B]Exergue[/B]: KYZ [B]Reference[/B]: SBCV 839 [I]Overstruck on follis of Phocas, minted in Nikomedia ____________________________________ [ATTACH=full]783455[/ATTACH] [B]Heraclius, AE Follis[/B][/I] 617 - 618 A.D., Thessaloniki Mint, 2nd Officina 9.69g, 33.0mm, 6H [B] Obverse:[/B] DN hERACLIЧS P P AVG, [I]Crowned and draped facing busts of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine, each holding globus cruciger, cross between[/I] [B]Reverse:[/B] -, [I]Large M between A/N/N/O and ЧI/II (R.Y. 8), cross above, B below[/I] [B]Exergue:[/B] ΘЄC [B]Reference[/B]: SBCV 824 [I][I]Overstruck on follis of Phocas, mint unsure.[/I][/I] About 450 years later, the following coin showing the Roman Emperor Constantine X Ducas & the Empress Eudocia was overstruck on a Class B Anonymous Follis, which was struck over 30 years earlier. Apologies in advance, I noticed the obverse & reverse are reversed in the pictures. :) The obverse of the undertype is under the reverse of the "overtype". [ATTACH=full]783451[/ATTACH] [B]Constantine X Ducas, AE Follis[/B] 1059 - 1067 A.D., Constantinople Mint, null Officina 11.10g, 29.8mm, 6H [B]Obverse:[/B] [+ЄMMANOVHΛ/IC - XC], [I]Christ standing facing on footstool, wearing nimbus and holding Gospels[/I] [B]Reverse:[/B] [+KWNT ΔK] ЄV[ΔK AVΓO], [I]Eudocia on left, wearing loros with kite-shaped lower panel and crown with cross and pendilia, Constantine on right, wearing loros and crown with cross and pendilia, both standing facing, holding labarum with cross-piece on shaft between them, standing on base and three steps, each places one hand on heart [/I] What makes this coin very interesting is that both designs appear to be equally prominent. With little information, it would be hard to know which was overstruck on which. With no undertype, the coin should look like this (Taken from the [URL='http://labarum.info/lbr/show.php?coin=18530']Labarum database[/URL]). [ATTACH=full]783453[/ATTACH] Here's the coin rotated so that you can clearly see the Class B undertype. [ATTACH=full]783459[/ATTACH] The undertype should look like this; my example of the Class B Anonymous follis. [ATTACH=full]783450[/ATTACH] [B]Anonymous[/B], [B]AE Follis[/B] 1028 - 1034 A.D., Constantinople Mint, null Officina 13.91g, 31.98mm, 6H [B]Obverse:[/B] +ЄMMANOVHΛ/IC - XC, [I]Nimbate bust of Christ facing, square in each limb of cross; wearing pallium and collobium and holding book of Gospels[/I] [B]Reverse:[/B] IS XS/bASILЄ/bASILЄ, [I]Legend in three lines divided by limbs of cross with dot at each extremity on three-stepped base[/I] [B]Class:[/B] B In a few years after the overstruck coin was minted, coinage gets much worse as the Roman Empire faces its next several challenges. Out of the dust, Emperor Alexius I Komnenos rises up and enacts coinage reforms introducing BI Aspron Trachys. I have yet to see an overstrike on one of those. Hope you guys enjoyed my very first thread on CoinTalk and the interesting overstrike that I am lucky to have acquired from Warren a few months ago. I'd love to see all your overstrikes! :)[/QUOTE]
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