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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Severus Alexander, post: 3199317, member: 84744&quot;]Oooh, we have inspired controversy!&nbsp; Cool! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; I must say some words in defense of Ptolemaic hockey pucks, though... I fear they may have been unfairly slighted! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=88829]@lrbguy[/USER], absolutely fair point that the voting in the bargain category isn&#039;t where it should be.&nbsp; I totally agree.&nbsp; On the other hand if you&#039;re suggesting that it should be a landslide in the opposite direction, I can&#039;t agree with that either, given past auction records.&nbsp; To my mind, the best bargain category should be judged by how much the coin cost compared to past sale prices of equivalent types (for market purposes), and especially examples of the same quality.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, it&#039;s somewhat open what &quot;equivalent type&quot; would mean here, but one way to be too general would be to include any 50+ g Ptolemaic hockey puck.&nbsp; To most collectors (including a generalist like me) the octobols are special.&nbsp; And while these are certainly more common than a Decius Divo series Aurelius, they are far from common!&nbsp; And in the same quality as mine, equally rare (partly because the strikes are usually so poor).&nbsp; Searching on acsearch for Svoronos types 412, 446, and 478, as well as &quot;octobol&quot; or &quot;oktobol&quot; (which seems to cover most if not all the series 4 octobols on acsearch, correct me if I&#039;m wrong) there are very few at that quality level, and they all sold for $850+, not including fees; and in the last ten years there are none of equivalent quality for less than $1100, not including fees.&nbsp; (Similar to the $500 comp for Q&#039;s coin, there are also coins (b) and (d) in my writeup, which are good deals but a level below qualitywise... and still twice what I paid.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Another relevant question is to what extent the eagle types count as comps for Q&#039;s coin.&nbsp; For many collectors, they wouldn&#039;t mind which one they had, and both are rare, though the altar type moreso; I&#039;d say for market purposes the eagles are somewhat relevant.&nbsp; And a significantly nicer eagle type sold for $164 plus fees in 2014.</p><p><br /></p><p>Add in the Dattari provenance, and I think that puts the octobol in the same ballpark as Q&#039;s coin bargainwise.&nbsp; (Sorry to go into depth on this, perhaps I&#039;m even violating contest etiquette! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But valuing ancient coins is an interesting topic in itself &amp; I felt it was worth posting, since nobody else did.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is my only complaint about the coin. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Storing it is a huge pain since none of my usual methods (trays, flips in a box) work! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie81" alt=":shifty:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And please note that my first round coin was an lrb.&nbsp; You know I love them! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie82" alt=":shy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; (And I don&#039;t think Roman collectors here are in the minority, or at a disadvantage; far from it.&nbsp; You didn&#039;t imply that, I&#039;m just prompted to say it in response to your discussion with [USER=76194]@Sallent[/USER].)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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