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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 8233036, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1447703[/ATTACH]Public domain image derived from a <a href="https://archive.org/details/OneHundredAndEightPlatesOfAntiqueGems/marlborough-g-one-1860s-00031503-LowRes/page/n137/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/OneHundredAndEightPlatesOfAntiqueGems/marlborough-g-one-1860s-00031503-LowRes/page/n137/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">1783 publication of gems engraved by Francesco Bartolozzi after drawings by G.B.Cipriani</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin was produced in Antioch during the sixth Syrian war (170-168). At 10.32 grams it is significantly underweight compared to the 18-19.99g median of <a href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414" rel="nofollow">Seleucid Coin 1414</a>. I don't have a good explanation for this - contemporary counterfeit? smaller unpublished "Denomination B" (<a href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1415" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1415" rel="nofollow">SC 1415</a>)? a mint mistake? overstruck on a smaller coin?</p><p>I find the portrait a bit unusual too - lacking the obvious hair in long curls falling to the neckline - is this really a portrait of ISIS - it does seem to have an Isis headdress? could it be a laureate portrait of Antiochus or Ptolemy VI? Other suggestions?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447640[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Seleucid Empire, Antiochos IV Epiphanes</b>, 175-164 BC, Æ (22mm, 10.32g) "Egyptianizing" series, Antioch on the Orontes mint, struck 169-168 BC</p><p><b>Obv: </b>Head of Isis right, wearing tainia</p><p><b>Rev: </b>ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ANTIOXOY ΘEOY EΠIΦANOYΣ, eagle standing right [on thunderbolt].</p><p><b>Ref: </b><a href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414" rel="nofollow">SC 1414</a></p><p><b>Notes and more related coins: </b><a href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/antiochos-iv-egyptianizing" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sullacoins.com/post/antiochos-iv-egyptianizing" rel="nofollow">Antiochus IV "Egyptianizing"</a></p><p><br /></p><p>While it won't win any beauty contests, it is interesting for the Ptolemaic eagle reverse and Isis obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>Antiochos IV Epiphanes invaded Egypt twice during this time. The co-regents of Ptolemy VI attempted to retake Syria and Phoenicia, lost to Antiochos III during the Fifth Syrian War. In November 170, Seleucid and Ptolemaic armies clashed near Mt. Casius, on the border between Turkey and Syria near the mouth of the Orontes River. Antiochos IV won decisively, and earned Egyptian goodwill by sparing the lives of the defeated soldiers.</p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="3"> <font size="4">At the time when Antiochus occupied Egypt, he was joined by envoys sent from Greece to make peace. Giving them a kind reception, he entertained them splendidly upon meeting with them for the first time, and on the second granted them an audience, and bade them tell him what their instructions were.</font></font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="3">-Polybius, <a href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/28*.html#20" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/28*.html#20" rel="nofollow">The Histories, XXVIII, 20.1-2</a></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p>Antiochos was so persuasive that Ptolemy Philometor joined Antiochos in Memphis and his regents in Alexandria reacted by setting up a competing government. Ptolemy Philometor remained the recognized ruler in most of Egypt outside of Alexandria. When Antiochos failed to capture Alexandria and in 169 returned to Syria, he left Philometor as King, and the King reconciled with his siblings. This caused Antiochos IV to reenter Egypt and establish himself as king. However Rome surprisingly influential in this exchange (at least from point of view of Livy).</p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">"After crossing the river at Eleusis, about four miles from Alexandria, he was met by the Roman commissioners, to whom he gave a friendly greeting and held out his hand to Popilius. Popilius, however, placed in his hand the tablets on which was written the decree of the senate and told him first of all to read that. After reading it through he said he would call his friends into council and consider what he ought to do. Popilius, stern and imperious as ever, drew a circle round the king with the stick he was carrying and said, "Before you step out of that circle give me a reply to lay before the senate." For a few moments he hesitated, astounded at such a peremptory order, and at last replied, "I will do what the senate thinks right.""</font></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><font size="4">-Livy <a href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Liv.+45+12&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0144" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Liv.+45+12&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0144" rel="nofollow">This History of Rome, 45.12.3-6</a></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p>The Ptolemaic eagle on the reverse stands on a thunderbolt and faces left versus facing eagle of Egyptian coins. Antiochos planned to annex Cyprus and possibly part of Egypt proper. This "Special "Egyptianizing" Series" is dated in Seleucid Coins as "autumn 169-summer/autumn 168". Seleucid Coins authors report that Svonoros catalogs the series as "struck by Antiochus IV during his occupation of Egypt". It may have been produced for use Seleucid controlled Ptolemaic territories.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Please share your point of view in the survey on this coin is and/or post your coins of Ptolemy VI Philometor, Antiochos IV, or anything else you find interesting or entertaining.</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 8233036, member: 99456"][ATTACH=full]1447703[/ATTACH]Public domain image derived from a [URL='https://archive.org/details/OneHundredAndEightPlatesOfAntiqueGems/marlborough-g-one-1860s-00031503-LowRes/page/n137/mode/2up']1783 publication of gems engraved by Francesco Bartolozzi after drawings by G.B.Cipriani[/URL]. This coin was produced in Antioch during the sixth Syrian war (170-168). At 10.32 grams it is significantly underweight compared to the 18-19.99g median of [URL='http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414']Seleucid Coin 1414[/URL]. I don't have a good explanation for this - contemporary counterfeit? smaller unpublished "Denomination B" ([URL='http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1415']SC 1415[/URL])? a mint mistake? overstruck on a smaller coin? I find the portrait a bit unusual too - lacking the obvious hair in long curls falling to the neckline - is this really a portrait of ISIS - it does seem to have an Isis headdress? could it be a laureate portrait of Antiochus or Ptolemy VI? Other suggestions? [ATTACH=full]1447640[/ATTACH] [B]Seleucid Empire, Antiochos IV Epiphanes[/B], 175-164 BC, Æ (22mm, 10.32g) "Egyptianizing" series, Antioch on the Orontes mint, struck 169-168 BC [B]Obv: [/B]Head of Isis right, wearing tainia [B]Rev: [/B]ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ANTIOXOY ΘEOY EΠIΦANOYΣ, eagle standing right [on thunderbolt]. [B]Ref: [/B][URL='http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.1414']SC 1414[/URL] [B]Notes and more related coins: [/B][URL='https://www.sullacoins.com/post/antiochos-iv-egyptianizing']Antiochus IV "Egyptianizing"[/URL] While it won't win any beauty contests, it is interesting for the Ptolemaic eagle reverse and Isis obverse. Antiochos IV Epiphanes invaded Egypt twice during this time. The co-regents of Ptolemy VI attempted to retake Syria and Phoenicia, lost to Antiochos III during the Fifth Syrian War. In November 170, Seleucid and Ptolemaic armies clashed near Mt. Casius, on the border between Turkey and Syria near the mouth of the Orontes River. Antiochos IV won decisively, and earned Egyptian goodwill by sparing the lives of the defeated soldiers. [FONT=Courier New][SIZE=3] [SIZE=4]At the time when Antiochus occupied Egypt, he was joined by envoys sent from Greece to make peace. Giving them a kind reception, he entertained them splendidly upon meeting with them for the first time, and on the second granted them an audience, and bade them tell him what their instructions were.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]-Polybius, [URL='https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/28*.html#20']The Histories, XXVIII, 20.1-2[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] Antiochos was so persuasive that Ptolemy Philometor joined Antiochos in Memphis and his regents in Alexandria reacted by setting up a competing government. Ptolemy Philometor remained the recognized ruler in most of Egypt outside of Alexandria. When Antiochos failed to capture Alexandria and in 169 returned to Syria, he left Philometor as King, and the King reconciled with his siblings. This caused Antiochos IV to reenter Egypt and establish himself as king. However Rome surprisingly influential in this exchange (at least from point of view of Livy). [FONT=Courier New][SIZE=4]"After crossing the river at Eleusis, about four miles from Alexandria, he was met by the Roman commissioners, to whom he gave a friendly greeting and held out his hand to Popilius. Popilius, however, placed in his hand the tablets on which was written the decree of the senate and told him first of all to read that. After reading it through he said he would call his friends into council and consider what he ought to do. Popilius, stern and imperious as ever, drew a circle round the king with the stick he was carrying and said, "Before you step out of that circle give me a reply to lay before the senate." For a few moments he hesitated, astounded at such a peremptory order, and at last replied, "I will do what the senate thinks right."" -Livy [URL='https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Liv.+45+12&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0144']This History of Rome, 45.12.3-6[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT] The Ptolemaic eagle on the reverse stands on a thunderbolt and faces left versus facing eagle of Egyptian coins. Antiochos planned to annex Cyprus and possibly part of Egypt proper. This "Special "Egyptianizing" Series" is dated in Seleucid Coins as "autumn 169-summer/autumn 168". Seleucid Coins authors report that Svonoros catalogs the series as "struck by Antiochus IV during his occupation of Egypt". It may have been produced for use Seleucid controlled Ptolemaic territories. [B]Please share your point of view in the survey on this coin is and/or post your coins of Ptolemy VI Philometor, Antiochos IV, or anything else you find interesting or entertaining.[/B][/QUOTE]
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