Seeking some knowledge

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Egry, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. Egry

    Egry Supporter! Supporter

    Hi All,

    I’ve been a bit absent from the forum lately, life has been busy! Unfortunately I’ve been more of a lurker than a contributor.

    Recently I purchased a lot of relatively low grade “Greek” bronze coins, not my typical purchase but I really wanted to start challenging myself on identification. Most are Ancient greek, with some Greek Provincial Roman but one has stumped me.

    I think it is a Roman provincial but I just can’t seem so pin point exactly who it is and where it is from.

    Some part of me is hopeful and wishes that maybe, just maybe it is a fractional Cleo VII from Syria (hopeful, but unlikely).

    I rarely do this but I’d like to call on the Legions of CoinTalk for support.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Weight is 3.04g
    Diameter about 15mm

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  3. Al Kowsky

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    Ergy, Your coin looks like a cast fantasy :(.
     
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  4. Egry

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    I’ve handled a lot of coins, and I wouldn’t have said it was cast, but then again the casts I have are very poor quality. The wear did look to me like it could be fake. It’s a Roma lot, not that this means anything, they are known to have dodgy affiliations.

    If it is a phoney then I’ll put it in my ‘tuition box’.
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Does look like Cleopatra...
     
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  6. Egry

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    @lordmarcovan if it does turn out to be fake, I will donate the lot of 19 minus my tuition coin to a CoinTalk competition of your choice. I will ship to the winner.
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Perhaps the obverse figure is Artemis-- looks likes there may be a hint of a quiver over the shoulder and the hairstyle is compatible with Artemis.
     
  8. Limes

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  9. Egry

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    Yes, I did lean this way originally. However the portriat seems almost juvenile, I am not an expert in coinage of Artemis but her portraits are slightly more mature in appearance when compared to this one.
     
  10. Egry

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    @TIF, I think you nailed it! Thank you. I didn’t look at the types nominated by @Limes

    @lordmarcovan, even though I now don’t think it is fake I am still willing to contribute the lot minus the Artemis to a CoinTalk cause of your choosing. Let me know.
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    While I do think the obverse is Artemis, it is not one of those Lucanian bronzes. The reverse isn't right.

    The coin in question does have a male figure standing but he's not holding a lyre (a patera and some whip-like object). So far I haven't found a match, even using what I can discern of the reverse legend. It's an interesting identification challenge :).
     
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  12. Egry

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    @Tiff if it’s challenging for you then what hope do I have! Thank you for the help
     
  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    So the verdict is genuine, right?
     
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  14. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker Supporter

    It looks like an authentic coin to me. Maybe from the Seleucid empire?

    John
     
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  15. Egry

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    From my very small Greek and Roman provincial library.

    Not the coin but I feel like as @TIF said the portrait is Artemis, and based on what I can find the reverse is Apollo.

    Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I’ll keep searching.
     

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