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<p>[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 3497208, member: 90666"]Yes. Malter = NFA during 1970s.</p><p>Malter does not = NFA during the later bad times. He sold on the name sometime late 1970s. So to update Sallent's list on two points:</p><p>- NFA/Malter were the same during the time his coin was bought so adding Joel Malter on the back meant "I bought the coin from Joel Malter (whose company name was NFA)". I'd actually forgotten this until I looked at some NFA/Malter catalogues from the 1970s this afternoon.</p><p>- Malter's son Michael continued with Malter until quite recently. It has nothing to do with the NFA which had troubles in the 1990s.</p><p><br /></p><p>One point this shows is that it is the named principal that matters, not the name of the company. Gans, Malter > reliable NFA. The 1980s NFA > great coins but dodgy business.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another general point I'd like to make is that there is no source book for provenances apart from John Spring's magnificent work on ancient coin auction houses, but that focuses more on the 1910s to 1950s. There's no directory to answer questions like "whose is the red handwriting". One just has to get together with other collectors and try and piece together the information as we are doing right now. Sometimes it will involve wrong assumptions or errors. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have further information about the "signatures" in red. I have now seen more tickets with the same handwriting. One has "Knobloch" written in the same red handwriting in the same position on the back of the ticket. Unless Joel Malter was in the habit of trying to forge Fred Knobloch's name, I think this decisively proves that the red handwriting is the S.C. collector who sometimes wrote who bought the coin from on the back of the ticket. And sometimes not.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mentioned above that S.C. coins are highly respected. The S.C. collection coins I own include</p><p>- one ex the Ashmolean museum which I know because 19th century electrotypes are known of my coin with an Ashmolean mark (I have one of the electrotypes which I keep with the ticket)</p><p>- three Knobloch coins (Stack's 1978), one of which was a Max Bahrfeldt coin</p><p>- two Haeberlin coins (Cahn-Hess 1933)</p><p>- one Hall Park McCullough (Stack's 1967)</p><p><br /></p><p>These are awesome provenances and shows the quality of coins in the collection. I only wish I had more. Anyone who wishes to part with any coins accompanied by those envelopes with the special red writing please let me know <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 3497208, member: 90666"]Yes. Malter = NFA during 1970s. Malter does not = NFA during the later bad times. He sold on the name sometime late 1970s. So to update Sallent's list on two points: - NFA/Malter were the same during the time his coin was bought so adding Joel Malter on the back meant "I bought the coin from Joel Malter (whose company name was NFA)". I'd actually forgotten this until I looked at some NFA/Malter catalogues from the 1970s this afternoon. - Malter's son Michael continued with Malter until quite recently. It has nothing to do with the NFA which had troubles in the 1990s. One point this shows is that it is the named principal that matters, not the name of the company. Gans, Malter > reliable NFA. The 1980s NFA > great coins but dodgy business. Another general point I'd like to make is that there is no source book for provenances apart from John Spring's magnificent work on ancient coin auction houses, but that focuses more on the 1910s to 1950s. There's no directory to answer questions like "whose is the red handwriting". One just has to get together with other collectors and try and piece together the information as we are doing right now. Sometimes it will involve wrong assumptions or errors. I have further information about the "signatures" in red. I have now seen more tickets with the same handwriting. One has "Knobloch" written in the same red handwriting in the same position on the back of the ticket. Unless Joel Malter was in the habit of trying to forge Fred Knobloch's name, I think this decisively proves that the red handwriting is the S.C. collector who sometimes wrote who bought the coin from on the back of the ticket. And sometimes not. I mentioned above that S.C. coins are highly respected. The S.C. collection coins I own include - one ex the Ashmolean museum which I know because 19th century electrotypes are known of my coin with an Ashmolean mark (I have one of the electrotypes which I keep with the ticket) - three Knobloch coins (Stack's 1978), one of which was a Max Bahrfeldt coin - two Haeberlin coins (Cahn-Hess 1933) - one Hall Park McCullough (Stack's 1967) These are awesome provenances and shows the quality of coins in the collection. I only wish I had more. Anyone who wishes to part with any coins accompanied by those envelopes with the special red writing please let me know :)[/QUOTE]
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