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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Dave M, post: 769854, member: 17469&quot;]I&#039;ll jump in and see if I can add something relatively intelligent to the discussion...</p><p><br /></p><p>Firstly, I think the presentations this year were fantastic, especially given these were the very first ones, with no pre-existing templates or instructions to help folks out. They were all enjoyable reads, and covered a lot of topics. RickieB and Connor1 you&#039;ve done a good job coordinating the effort, and I thank you for it. For me, research and deeper understanding of the artwork on banknotes is my motivation for collecting, and the Security Engraver&#039;s Group is generating the kind of content I enjoy.</p><p><br /></p><p>That said, what could be better? A couple thoughts, not intended to bash the group or point at anyone in particular:</p><p><br /></p><p>1) I&#039;m not sure how we ended up focused on *engravers* specifically for the group. While the engraver of a particular banknote is obviously important, in my mind, the *artist* who drew the art that was then engraved is more important, in the scheme of things.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) I tried early on to have a discussion on &quot;what is a vignette?&quot;, to gain an understanding of where the group was going. It wasn&#039;t well-participated, and I think most folks took the discussion just to be a clarification to me on the definition of the term. If I didn&#039;t make it clear back then, my apologies. I know how the term is used, I was wanting to find out whether the members of the group had some consensus on scoping that I wasn&#039;t aware of. Over the months, it feels like the group has minimized the phrase &quot;vignette&quot;, because it is hard to define, and I think that&#039;s a good thing. For me, I would just as soon have the group be focused on *any* artwork on banknotes and securities, regardless of whether it can be captured in the box called a &quot;vignette&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m sure more would come to mind with a bit more thought, but that&#039;s it for starters. What would address both those thoughts is a &quot;scope statement&quot; for the group, that clarified these things to all members. I don&#039;t believe the scope should be &quot;any writing you want to do about banknotes and securities&quot;, because that&#039;s a replication of this forum. It should be a different scope from the most general &quot;paper money forum&quot; discussions. But what is that scope, more specifically?</p><p><br /></p><p>Dave[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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