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<p>[QUOTE="Loong Siew, post: 3906225, member: 75799"]I will not waste time arguing too much about the subject especially when there is not enough authoritative scholastic research being made or conducted on these coins. It will only boil down to matter of personal opinions based on individual's concepts and ideas.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will end with these few closing notes however </p><p>1) The argument that styles have changed and evolved that they will never repeat again is a FALSE assumption. There is no written records that dictate a stylistic standard that is adhered to through the ages and hence any specimens that do not conform to the period is considered Fake. Moreover private issues care even less for stylistic adherence. Please research more into tokens and #exonumia. Case to note, please refer to following specimen from the Song Dynasty.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1029730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029731[/ATTACH] </p><p>The above specimen is a Song Dynasty issue which adopted a style of "biscuit" cash that was reminiscent of Han Dynasty coins albeit in extreme proportions. The thick and wide rims are fully evident here.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) About "style" the make and dimensions of this specimen warped the 咸平元寶 into something different from what expectations are. [ATTACH=full]1029737[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029738[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I need not emphasize the obvious "style" differences in the characters above and specimen #1. Even the proportions of the rim between the first and second specimens are different with the former showing a disproportionately large rim. FYI, large rims were even casted during the late Qing. Please refer Hartill 22.1371 for example.</p><p><br /></p><p>3) Finally, variations exists for this coin as well. Despite it's rarity, at least 4 varying calligraphic styles are already noted. [ATTACH=full]1029741[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029742[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Let us end the argument of authenticity here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Loong Siew, post: 3906225, member: 75799"]I will not waste time arguing too much about the subject especially when there is not enough authoritative scholastic research being made or conducted on these coins. It will only boil down to matter of personal opinions based on individual's concepts and ideas. I will end with these few closing notes however 1) The argument that styles have changed and evolved that they will never repeat again is a FALSE assumption. There is no written records that dictate a stylistic standard that is adhered to through the ages and hence any specimens that do not conform to the period is considered Fake. Moreover private issues care even less for stylistic adherence. Please research more into tokens and #exonumia. Case to note, please refer to following specimen from the Song Dynasty. [ATTACH=full]1029730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029731[/ATTACH] The above specimen is a Song Dynasty issue which adopted a style of "biscuit" cash that was reminiscent of Han Dynasty coins albeit in extreme proportions. The thick and wide rims are fully evident here. 2) About "style" the make and dimensions of this specimen warped the 咸平元寶 into something different from what expectations are. [ATTACH=full]1029737[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029738[/ATTACH] I need not emphasize the obvious "style" differences in the characters above and specimen #1. Even the proportions of the rim between the first and second specimens are different with the former showing a disproportionately large rim. FYI, large rims were even casted during the late Qing. Please refer Hartill 22.1371 for example. 3) Finally, variations exists for this coin as well. Despite it's rarity, at least 4 varying calligraphic styles are already noted. [ATTACH=full]1029741[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1029742[/ATTACH] Let us end the argument of authenticity here.[/QUOTE]
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