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<p>[QUOTE="Loong Siew, post: 3899871, member: 75799"]you may have your opinion on this. However I do not need to prove anything.. Firstly this was unearthed in the border of China on Jin land, it is not an eBay specimen. Secondly there are widely differing dimensions of this coin from the silvers, gold and even bronzes. Thirdly you have demonstrated but only one or 2 specimens to determine the coin's authenticity when there are not enough of these coins to start with. I suggest to look for the gold and silver specimens for comparison on the differences in styles. Also, the patination is correct as I have examined and tested it personally myself. Fifth, this specimen has been verified on Zeno since the early 2000s observed by experts like Vladimir Belyaev and the likes. I have provided the Zeno reference to the same coin which I obtained. Sixth, these tokens are also divided between the standard and the red contingents, the latter being non-Han soldiers who were also interested to defect. Lastly there were no written records kept on the standard dimensions of these coins. The only specimen maintained was Ma Dingxiang's specimen as you shown and a couple of one or 2 that came out after. Calligraphy style are largely similar although the size is smaller for this specimen. Please note that unlike government controlled circulating currencies, these coins are made on demand without government machinery or controlled standards. </p><p><br /></p><p>You are free to your opinion and I respect that. But I suggest further study and analysis before conclusion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Loong Siew, post: 3899871, member: 75799"]you may have your opinion on this. However I do not need to prove anything.. Firstly this was unearthed in the border of China on Jin land, it is not an eBay specimen. Secondly there are widely differing dimensions of this coin from the silvers, gold and even bronzes. Thirdly you have demonstrated but only one or 2 specimens to determine the coin's authenticity when there are not enough of these coins to start with. I suggest to look for the gold and silver specimens for comparison on the differences in styles. Also, the patination is correct as I have examined and tested it personally myself. Fifth, this specimen has been verified on Zeno since the early 2000s observed by experts like Vladimir Belyaev and the likes. I have provided the Zeno reference to the same coin which I obtained. Sixth, these tokens are also divided between the standard and the red contingents, the latter being non-Han soldiers who were also interested to defect. Lastly there were no written records kept on the standard dimensions of these coins. The only specimen maintained was Ma Dingxiang's specimen as you shown and a couple of one or 2 that came out after. Calligraphy style are largely similar although the size is smaller for this specimen. Please note that unlike government controlled circulating currencies, these coins are made on demand without government machinery or controlled standards. You are free to your opinion and I respect that. But I suggest further study and analysis before conclusion.[/QUOTE]
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