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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;900fine, post: 861994, member: 6036&quot;]In general, that is true. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>However, there are several Judd pieces which were unauthorized. If I get a minute, I&#039;ll check the book and list a few numbers. Not all of what we call &quot;patterns&quot; were struck for legitimate reasons, such as die trials, expermenting with different metals, or passing around to get feedback from the notables. Some were outright mules (eg pairing two obverse dies); some were &quot;midnight runs&quot; made for the purpose of artificially creating distinctive rarities.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s true they experimented with metals, as evidenced by the $4 gold / goloid etc coins (and many others).</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>It&#039;s also true some patterns were die trials, with no intention of the off-metal being a proposal or experiment in the &quot;other metal&quot;. It&#039;s case by case.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p>Sort of... but some of the 1933 Saints aren&#039;t accepted yet. It&#039;s unclear what will happen with them, and no telling what will happen if another cache shows up. One thing is clear - there would be much talk on Coin Talk about it ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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