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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2444230, member: 24314"]I'm not telling BM that her second favorite poster is stirring up my blood pressure. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now one more try for total agreement (As in this case I'm not flexible <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have the same personal standard as I do and will agree that AU means "no trace of wear," will you agree that we detect wear as loss of original mint luster? In that case, how much loss of luster do you allow on a coin for it to be from cabinet friction and how much MORE loss of luster to you need to call it AU?</p><p><br /></p><p>You see, this is the problem with commercial grading. We all (including TPGS graders) have our own amount of luster loss before we drop a coin to AU. This was never a problem with the Technical Grading System taught to beginners in SOME seminars BEFORE they are introduced to "market grading." For tech grading a Mint State coin has FULL LUSTER and no amount of friction no mater what caused it (as we were not there when it happened).</p><p><br /></p><p>Cabinet Friction is a term that was "coined" by dealers to let them sell "sliders" with eye appeal to the those who did not know/or ignored the strict definition of Mint State: No trace of wear. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2444230, member: 24314"]I'm not telling BM that her second favorite poster is stirring up my blood pressure. :kiss: Now one more try for total agreement (As in this case I'm not flexible :smuggrin:). If you have the same personal standard as I do and will agree that AU means "no trace of wear," will you agree that we detect wear as loss of original mint luster? In that case, how much loss of luster do you allow on a coin for it to be from cabinet friction and how much MORE loss of luster to you need to call it AU? You see, this is the problem with commercial grading. We all (including TPGS graders) have our own amount of luster loss before we drop a coin to AU. This was never a problem with the Technical Grading System taught to beginners in SOME seminars BEFORE they are introduced to "market grading." For tech grading a Mint State coin has FULL LUSTER and no amount of friction no mater what caused it (as we were not there when it happened). Cabinet Friction is a term that was "coined" by dealers to let them sell "sliders" with eye appeal to the those who did not know/or ignored the strict definition of Mint State: No trace of wear. :jawdrop:[/QUOTE]
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