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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 6477446, member: 26430"]This is a great topic, [USER=91461]@Ryro[/USER] ! I do tend to favor the view that the bronze, the "Escipión Africano" at the Naples Museum, is Scipio, and also that it resembles the supposed portraits on Iberian and Roman coins. (Of course, one has to mind the possibility of wishful thinking.) [USER=116882]@Silphium Addict[/USER] , I like your explanation of those three Shekels! What a wonderful set.</p><p><br /></p><p>I still need to upgrade my Spanish AE "Scipio," and hopefully get one of the bigger issues. I haven't got these top three cataloged yet, but here's my </p><p>(1: top left) Cornelius Blasio denarius (112/1 BCE) with the head of Mars-as-Scipio Africanus (?); </p><p>(2: top right) little "Scipio"/horse Iberian AE14 from Cartagonova (?) after kicking Hannibal out; and </p><p>(3: bottom) the Q. Metellus Pius Scipio Denarius (47/6 BCE) with the elephant on the back, struck in Africa (during the Pompey's & Caesar's Civil War), evoking the successes of his illustrious ancestor Scipio Africanus the Elder in Africa and Iberia during the 2nd Punic War.</p><p><br /></p><p>Below that are some other fun coins related to 2nd Punic War.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1258712[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1258713[/ATTACH](Left) <font size="4"><b>Punic Spain, the Barcids, <i>temp.</i> Second Punic War</b>. Halved AR Shekel or "Drachm/Denarius" (4.09g). Cathago Nova (?), circa 237-209 BCE (<i>temp.</i> Hannibal, 218-206?).</font></p><p><font size="4">One might speculate that after Hannibal was expelled from Iberia, this Shekel was subjected to a "currency conversion," interestingly, cut to substantially more than "half," more like ~62% of a 6.65g original Shekel, assuming the missing half was of equal thickness/density.</font></p><p><font size="4"><br /></font></p><p><font size="4">(Right) <b>Latin Colonies & <b>Allies of Rome, <i>temp. </i>Second Punic War.</b> </b>Northern Apulia, Luceria AE Aes Grave Biunx (cast, 17.86g, 26mm [9mm thick], 3h). Struck <i>circa</i> 217-212. Shell / Astralagus [knucklebone]. L and two pellets (mark of value).</font></p><p><font size="4">I'm sure others here know better than I do where the Aes Grave and other coinage cast or struck at Luceria circulated. My understanding is that a major Roman mint was located there during the 2nd Punic war. Were these coins cast at Luceria for local coinage, for use by Romans, or both? </font></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1258717[/ATTACH]</p><p><font size="4"><b>Carthage, Punic Spain, Carthagonova AR 1/4 Shekel</b> (1.70g, 14.5mm, 12h). Struck c. 237 - 209 BCE (disputed dating; <i>temp.</i> Hannibal & Second Punic War? c. 218-209).</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obverse</b>: Laureate bust of Melqart-Hercules (with features of Hannibal?) left, club over far shoulder.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Reverse</b>: African elephant advancing right, ground line, dotted border. </font></p><p><font size="4"><b>References</b>: Robinson-6c, plate II; SNG British Museum 989; SNG BM Spain 102; SNG Copenhagen 293; CNH-14; AB-487; Vill-15 (Villaronga, MHC suggests Hasdrubal based on dating).</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Pedigree</b>: Ex-Soley y Llach Auction 1112, Lot 49 (27 February, 2020)</font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1258716[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="4"><b>Spain, Arse-Saguntum. AE Sextans</b> (c. 1.6g, 14 x 12.5mm, 9h). Mid-2nd cent AD. </font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Obverse</b>: Scallop or cockle shell.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Reverse</b>: Dolphin right; crescent above, Iberian character & star below.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>References</b>: CNH 35; SNG BM Spain 1113-5; ACIP (Villaronga, Ancient Coins of the Iberian Penninsula) 1979; Alvarez-Burgos (FAB) 2064.</font></p><p><font size="4"><b>Pedigree:</b> Ex-Lucernae Numismatica (Antonio Hinojosa Pareja, Alcala la Real, Spain; 1 Sep 2014).</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 6477446, member: 26430"]This is a great topic, [USER=91461]@Ryro[/USER] ! I do tend to favor the view that the bronze, the "Escipión Africano" at the Naples Museum, is Scipio, and also that it resembles the supposed portraits on Iberian and Roman coins. (Of course, one has to mind the possibility of wishful thinking.) [USER=116882]@Silphium Addict[/USER] , I like your explanation of those three Shekels! What a wonderful set. I still need to upgrade my Spanish AE "Scipio," and hopefully get one of the bigger issues. I haven't got these top three cataloged yet, but here's my (1: top left) Cornelius Blasio denarius (112/1 BCE) with the head of Mars-as-Scipio Africanus (?); (2: top right) little "Scipio"/horse Iberian AE14 from Cartagonova (?) after kicking Hannibal out; and (3: bottom) the Q. Metellus Pius Scipio Denarius (47/6 BCE) with the elephant on the back, struck in Africa (during the Pompey's & Caesar's Civil War), evoking the successes of his illustrious ancestor Scipio Africanus the Elder in Africa and Iberia during the 2nd Punic War. Below that are some other fun coins related to 2nd Punic War. [ATTACH=full]1258712[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1258713[/ATTACH](Left) [SIZE=4][B]Punic Spain, the Barcids, [I]temp.[/I] Second Punic War[/B]. Halved AR Shekel or "Drachm/Denarius" (4.09g). Cathago Nova (?), circa 237-209 BCE ([I]temp.[/I] Hannibal, 218-206?). One might speculate that after Hannibal was expelled from Iberia, this Shekel was subjected to a "currency conversion," interestingly, cut to substantially more than "half," more like ~62% of a 6.65g original Shekel, assuming the missing half was of equal thickness/density. (Right) [B]Latin Colonies & [B]Allies of Rome, [I]temp. [/I]Second Punic War.[/B] [/B]Northern Apulia, Luceria AE Aes Grave Biunx (cast, 17.86g, 26mm [9mm thick], 3h). Struck [I]circa[/I] 217-212. Shell / Astralagus [knucklebone]. L and two pellets (mark of value). I'm sure others here know better than I do where the Aes Grave and other coinage cast or struck at Luceria circulated. My understanding is that a major Roman mint was located there during the 2nd Punic war. Were these coins cast at Luceria for local coinage, for use by Romans, or both? [/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1258717[/ATTACH] [SIZE=4][B]Carthage, Punic Spain, Carthagonova AR 1/4 Shekel[/B] (1.70g, 14.5mm, 12h). Struck c. 237 - 209 BCE (disputed dating; [I]temp.[/I] Hannibal & Second Punic War? c. 218-209). [B]Obverse[/B]: Laureate bust of Melqart-Hercules (with features of Hannibal?) left, club over far shoulder. [B]Reverse[/B]: African elephant advancing right, ground line, dotted border. [B]References[/B]: Robinson-6c, plate II; SNG British Museum 989; SNG BM Spain 102; SNG Copenhagen 293; CNH-14; AB-487; Vill-15 (Villaronga, MHC suggests Hasdrubal based on dating). [B]Pedigree[/B]: Ex-Soley y Llach Auction 1112, Lot 49 (27 February, 2020)[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1258716[/ATTACH] [SIZE=4][B]Spain, Arse-Saguntum. AE Sextans[/B] (c. 1.6g, 14 x 12.5mm, 9h). Mid-2nd cent AD. [B]Obverse[/B]: Scallop or cockle shell. [B]Reverse[/B]: Dolphin right; crescent above, Iberian character & star below. [B]References[/B]: CNH 35; SNG BM Spain 1113-5; ACIP (Villaronga, Ancient Coins of the Iberian Penninsula) 1979; Alvarez-Burgos (FAB) 2064. [B]Pedigree:[/B] Ex-Lucernae Numismatica (Antonio Hinojosa Pareja, Alcala la Real, Spain; 1 Sep 2014).[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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