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<p>[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 2887405, member: 51347"]Nice Scipio [USER=82829]@PMONNEY[/USER] ! </p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I am of the Camp that Scipio's bust is on the coin. Not from a numismatic viewpoint, but based on various histories I have read. Remember, Hannibal personally HATED Rome. His family were defeated in the First Punic War (264-241), had to endure indemnities and tribute to pay Rome for loss in the War. Then were involved in a nasty, bloody Mercenary War (240-238 BCE) immediately after the First Punic War because they could not pay their troops DUE to those indemnities. Therefore, Hannibal prosecuted the Second Punic War (218-201) on Rome to make THEM pay. He wanted to fight IN Italy, so that he could garner support and sympathy from Rome's Allies and Foes in their homeland, including Celts and Italians. He had a huge PR Campaign in Italy, trying to gain Rome's Italian Allies support and win them over to his side. (I collect coins from Capua and some from Bruttium for this reason.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Publius Cornelius Scipio (before he was Africanus, and while in Spain), coins from Carthago Nova... He was young, had been built up by the Senatorial Class (even from a young age) almost as a demi-god to politically oppose Hannibal's propaganda campaign in Italy against Rome... This whipper-snapper "figgered" it all out - how to counter the psychological effect that Hannibal had on the Romans AND Italians for so many years!</p><p><br /></p><p>In my personal view, this is a propaganda coin with his likeness to oppose the Barcid Coins minted prior to his taking Carthago Nova from the Barcids / Carthaginians. These coins would make the FIRST living Roman featured on a coin minted under Roman Authority. I do not believe there are any SILVER coins, as that would had been a BIG No-NO. However, minting his likeness on Bronze, circulating in the local area would had been "overlooked". Brilliant on his part...</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]693263[/ATTACH] </p><p>Carthago Nova Scipio 209-206 BCE AE 14 Horse Head scarce</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]693265[/ATTACH] </p><p>Carthago Nova SCIPIO Africanus Roman Occupation 209-206 BCE Sear Vol2 6575 scarce[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 2887405, member: 51347"]Nice Scipio [USER=82829]@PMONNEY[/USER] ! Personally, I am of the Camp that Scipio's bust is on the coin. Not from a numismatic viewpoint, but based on various histories I have read. Remember, Hannibal personally HATED Rome. His family were defeated in the First Punic War (264-241), had to endure indemnities and tribute to pay Rome for loss in the War. Then were involved in a nasty, bloody Mercenary War (240-238 BCE) immediately after the First Punic War because they could not pay their troops DUE to those indemnities. Therefore, Hannibal prosecuted the Second Punic War (218-201) on Rome to make THEM pay. He wanted to fight IN Italy, so that he could garner support and sympathy from Rome's Allies and Foes in their homeland, including Celts and Italians. He had a huge PR Campaign in Italy, trying to gain Rome's Italian Allies support and win them over to his side. (I collect coins from Capua and some from Bruttium for this reason.) Publius Cornelius Scipio (before he was Africanus, and while in Spain), coins from Carthago Nova... He was young, had been built up by the Senatorial Class (even from a young age) almost as a demi-god to politically oppose Hannibal's propaganda campaign in Italy against Rome... This whipper-snapper "figgered" it all out - how to counter the psychological effect that Hannibal had on the Romans AND Italians for so many years! In my personal view, this is a propaganda coin with his likeness to oppose the Barcid Coins minted prior to his taking Carthago Nova from the Barcids / Carthaginians. These coins would make the FIRST living Roman featured on a coin minted under Roman Authority. I do not believe there are any SILVER coins, as that would had been a BIG No-NO. However, minting his likeness on Bronze, circulating in the local area would had been "overlooked". Brilliant on his part... [ATTACH=full]693263[/ATTACH] Carthago Nova Scipio 209-206 BCE AE 14 Horse Head scarce [ATTACH=full]693265[/ATTACH] Carthago Nova SCIPIO Africanus Roman Occupation 209-206 BCE Sear Vol2 6575 scarce[/QUOTE]
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