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<p>[QUOTE="RBBDoughty, post: 2091555, member: 73447"]My initial impression is that the coin hasn't been whizzed, but it has been colored. I believe the extra outlines on the reverse to be from extreme die deterioration. You can see how the flow lines of the metal in the coin radiate from the center towards the edges. These sort of extra outlines caused by die deterioration will always 'flow' to the outside of the coin, that is why you don't see it inside the wreath. Similar extra outlines can exist on a whizzed coin, where the dremel tool literally shifts the metal. However, on those heavily whizzed coins the extra outlines will often exist on all sides of the raised devices.</p><p><br /></p><p>Scroll to the bottom of this thread to see an example of die deterioration on the obverse, which I just posted today. <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1892-indian-head-penny-ddr.259725/#post-2091005" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1892-indian-head-penny-ddr.259725/#post-2091005">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1892-indian-head-penny-ddr.259725/#post-2091005</a></p><p><br /></p><p>On the <a href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1890-indian-head-penny/1890-qdo-001/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1890-indian-head-penny/1890-qdo-001/" rel="nofollow">1890 QDO</a>, the die deteriorates just as the reverse of your coin there. See the date below. It looks a lot like a RPD, but it isn't.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8619/16580581896_c29ac6009e_b.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>People on eBay bid coins like yours way up, even if you say they are recolored or retoned in the description. At $40, you probably won't loose much if anything if you resell it on eBay. Coins like that, I sell them on eBay and use the $$$ to get honest examples. Check out this auction - if someone was willing to pay $40 for this unattractive coin, surely someone would bid yours up. <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Grade-Tough-Date-1881-Indian-Head-Penny-XF-AU-/131388947460?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e97643c04" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Grade-Tough-Date-1881-Indian-Head-Penny-XF-AU-/131388947460?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e97643c04" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Grade-Tough-Date-1881-Indian-Head-Penny-XF-AU-/131388947460?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e97643c04</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RBBDoughty, post: 2091555, member: 73447"]My initial impression is that the coin hasn't been whizzed, but it has been colored. I believe the extra outlines on the reverse to be from extreme die deterioration. You can see how the flow lines of the metal in the coin radiate from the center towards the edges. These sort of extra outlines caused by die deterioration will always 'flow' to the outside of the coin, that is why you don't see it inside the wreath. Similar extra outlines can exist on a whizzed coin, where the dremel tool literally shifts the metal. However, on those heavily whizzed coins the extra outlines will often exist on all sides of the raised devices. Scroll to the bottom of this thread to see an example of die deterioration on the obverse, which I just posted today. [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1892-indian-head-penny-ddr.259725/#post-2091005[/url] On the [URL='http://indianvarieties.com/cents/1890-indian-head-penny/1890-qdo-001/']1890 QDO[/URL], the die deteriorates just as the reverse of your coin there. See the date below. It looks a lot like a RPD, but it isn't. [IMG]https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8619/16580581896_c29ac6009e_b.jpg[/IMG] People on eBay bid coins like yours way up, even if you say they are recolored or retoned in the description. At $40, you probably won't loose much if anything if you resell it on eBay. Coins like that, I sell them on eBay and use the $$$ to get honest examples. Check out this auction - if someone was willing to pay $40 for this unattractive coin, surely someone would bid yours up. [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Grade-Tough-Date-1881-Indian-Head-Penny-XF-AU-/131388947460?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e97643c04[/url][/QUOTE]
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