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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8286308, member: 84744"]Interesting observation. Of course I agree that Emporium Shamburg has been selling these fakes for years... they're instantly recognizable. I always thought they were re-striking slugs and that the raised parts were original metal, very interesting to read (at the link you posted) that at least some of the raised parts are organic. ([USER=56859]@TIF[/USER], do you know if the sintered metal clay you used to make some Iguanasus coins would dissolve in acetone, at least partly?)</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree the two coins are a close match and so somehow related. But I do wonder if the CNG coin was maybe used as a source. It obviously has way more detail and doesn't have the telltale fabric present on all the Shamburg coins. It wouldn't be surprising if, at least at first, the fakers worked from original coins. The Shamburg example is from <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=julius+nepos&category=1-2&company=35&lot=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&currency=usd&order=2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=julius+nepos&category=1-2&company=35&lot=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&currency=usd&order=2" rel="nofollow">early in the run of these</a>. I would say they've become progressively less careful to model them after genuine coins, perhaps to avoid just this kind of transfer die match.</p><p><br /></p><p>It would be interesting to look at some of the other types they've faked and see if there are original models for some of the earliest productions.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8286308, member: 84744"]Interesting observation. Of course I agree that Emporium Shamburg has been selling these fakes for years... they're instantly recognizable. I always thought they were re-striking slugs and that the raised parts were original metal, very interesting to read (at the link you posted) that at least some of the raised parts are organic. ([USER=56859]@TIF[/USER], do you know if the sintered metal clay you used to make some Iguanasus coins would dissolve in acetone, at least partly?) I agree the two coins are a close match and so somehow related. But I do wonder if the CNG coin was maybe used as a source. It obviously has way more detail and doesn't have the telltale fabric present on all the Shamburg coins. It wouldn't be surprising if, at least at first, the fakers worked from original coins. The Shamburg example is from [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=julius+nepos&category=1-2&company=35&lot=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1¤cy=usd&order=2']early in the run of these[/URL]. I would say they've become progressively less careful to model them after genuine coins, perhaps to avoid just this kind of transfer die match. It would be interesting to look at some of the other types they've faked and see if there are original models for some of the earliest productions.[/QUOTE]
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