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Message:: [QUOTE="Conder101, post: 1531285, member: 66"]No the counterfeiters use genuine numbers almost every fake slab out there will verify on the TPG's website. They wouldn't destroy the coin but the holder and the logo are their trademarked property so I could see them destroying the slab. As for my comments on the slab I sent a PM to Matt shortly after he posted it.  it is a fake and the first of these that I had a change to examine was back in January.  When the first PCGS fakes appeared back in 2008  several identifying flaws were published on line by PCGS.  There were several other features that were not discussed and which do not show up well in pictures.  I wrote a couple articles about them that were distributed privately but not publicly published.  These new fakes not only corrected the published  flaws but almost all of the unpublished ones as well.  I've learned not to discuss identifying characteristics of the fake slabs in open forums because I strongly suspect the counterfeiters do monitor the coin forums and use our information on what the flaws are and then fix them. You would think so but they have made no changes to the slab other than the edgeview insert since 2005 even though the fake slabs began appearing in early 2008.[/QUOTE]