Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Scarce Bust Type Caracalla Ant.
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4617876, member: 19463"]I obviously am too dense to pick up on what makes Mats Jupiter bust different from my Pluto bust other than the windswept crown on mine. For that matter, my bull biga bust has a few slightly raised bumps raising the question if it differs more from a poor strike than intent. However, that coin seems to have a shoulder button making it more like zumbly's first coin (and unlike the second which is seen from the front). We know that every die was an individual effort but this is not a 'one or the other' matter if it shows degrees of compliance to some cataloger's distinctions. Of the coins shown here, I have seen fewer of the 'from the front' type but I do agree that the preferable style shows the scales whether or not these are rare. I return to the question on whether the mint was making some distinction on the issue according to the bust style or if we are just seeing the random whim of the cutter that day. </p><p><br /></p><p>As a matter of fact, the dog was what forced my purchase of that coin along with what I called the 'windswept' crown which I prefer strongly to the upright look. I certainly would not suggest a micro-managing subtype listing based on the matter but I suppose it would make the die a candidate for a 'fine style' designation. Similarly, did anyone notice the difference of the pose of the bulls on zumbly's biga when compared to the other two shown here? That reverse shows the weight of the animals thrown back as if rearing up while the other two show straight rear legs as if the biga were making forward progress. Every die is a bit different. I am glad we are spared sub-type numbered distinction until we get to a point that a die study identifies each of the dies used for the type. I have no idea of how many bull reverse dies were used or how many show bulls rearing, prancing or charging. I am, however, glad that the scholars avoided sub-typing every little variation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4617876, member: 19463"]I obviously am too dense to pick up on what makes Mats Jupiter bust different from my Pluto bust other than the windswept crown on mine. For that matter, my bull biga bust has a few slightly raised bumps raising the question if it differs more from a poor strike than intent. However, that coin seems to have a shoulder button making it more like zumbly's first coin (and unlike the second which is seen from the front). We know that every die was an individual effort but this is not a 'one or the other' matter if it shows degrees of compliance to some cataloger's distinctions. Of the coins shown here, I have seen fewer of the 'from the front' type but I do agree that the preferable style shows the scales whether or not these are rare. I return to the question on whether the mint was making some distinction on the issue according to the bust style or if we are just seeing the random whim of the cutter that day. As a matter of fact, the dog was what forced my purchase of that coin along with what I called the 'windswept' crown which I prefer strongly to the upright look. I certainly would not suggest a micro-managing subtype listing based on the matter but I suppose it would make the die a candidate for a 'fine style' designation. Similarly, did anyone notice the difference of the pose of the bulls on zumbly's biga when compared to the other two shown here? That reverse shows the weight of the animals thrown back as if rearing up while the other two show straight rear legs as if the biga were making forward progress. Every die is a bit different. I am glad we are spared sub-type numbered distinction until we get to a point that a die study identifies each of the dies used for the type. I have no idea of how many bull reverse dies were used or how many show bulls rearing, prancing or charging. I am, however, glad that the scholars avoided sub-typing every little variation.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Scarce Bust Type Caracalla Ant.
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...