Saxony Porcelain Notgeld

I was digging through some boxes and came across this, so I thought I'd share it with the group. This is a set from Saxony in the original box. It includes the gold trimmed pieces.

These were made by Meissen.

 

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Nice, I have some of these but have never seen any in a presentation box.

 

Those are cool!

 

Nice.
Thanks for sharing!


There have other threads on the subject.
Here is a nice one -
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/porcelain-coins.298042/

 

Are those dated 1921? I have seen these individual and bought a couple of the nicer ones.Never seen them in a full set.
Reverse of the 20

Reverse of the 5

What does the 10 look like?

 

Sorry P&G. I'm not going to have access to them not my reference books for about a week.

 

Some more notgeld in the original boxes. These might be better called porcelain medals, but I lump them in with notgeld

 

I have had chances over the years to buy collections of these. They are one of the things, while not in my main wheelhouse of collecting at all, I have regretted not buying. I hover between buying what I like because I like them, and being a hopeless hoarder. It depends on the day where I stand.

Btw, not to say anything at all wrong with collecting these. They are fantastic. My point was I already have tons of distinct collections, ancient, (Central Asian, Persian, Roman, Nabatean, Ancient India, Ancient China, etc), US, primitive money, antiquities, etc. At some point you don't look like a collector anymore, just a hoarder. I am probably well past that point, but I TRY to contain myself.

 

I feel your pain @medoraman (or fears about being a hoarder rather than a collector). Last year I had two local auctions of 400 lots each.

But I still have what my wife terms “too much.” I still collect US, foreign, Norway, ancients, currency AND have some notgeld, including some of the porcelain.

Maybe it’s something in our Minnesota water?

Steve

 

Oh heck, why didn't you tell me? I haven't ever went to a MN coin auction. I would have loved to go and make up an excuse why I needed to buy more!

 

I work in the technical ceramics field, so porcelain notgeld is on of the few things where my hobby and career overlap. And like @medoraman wrote, I am also a borderline hoarder on the right day

Here is an older pic of some notgeld that need to be atrributed, sorted, and put away. I am trying to skip the medals and stick with pieces that have a denomination. I'm also like the non-Meissen issues from place like Hohr and others

 

Nice! There are some I've seen that are white porcelain with gilding and they are stunning.

 

I have a lone example.

 

I have the ones with Schiller portrait. Nice sets.

 

Does any one know if the ceramic coins were actually used as "Not Geld" or if they were more a local souvenir? I grew up with my German Grandmother telling me a lot of stories about the hyper inflation, but I never once heard about these or the various cloth "notgeld" money, etc. Just wondering.

 

Yeah,...so, what's the down side Steve? Some of us are down stream from you!

 

They did seriously look into useing them and the red stone porcelain is very tough but I do not believe they ever put them into circulation. I don't think the cloth circulated either. A large amount of the bills and coin never circulated either. They were used as a way to raise funds and people collected them. I have a notgeld album that was sold to me with a lot of notgeld in it that was used to store a collection...see below. I will be posting a few bills and coins that did circulate but the bills look more like tickets or coupons and are far less interesting in design. Aachen minted coins that circulated.

 

Some of the notgeld that came in the album was definitely circulated.

 

Not a lot of downside for those of us who like to hoard....I mean COLLECT. An interesting factoid for you, Steve, and everyone else. Every single river in Minnesota runs OUT of the state, not a single one runs INTO Minnesota. So there's a lot of folks "downstream" from us.

The Red River of the North which forms the North Dakota - Minnesota border runs north to Canada, Lake Winnipeg and ultimately Hudson Bay. Two of the sister universities in ND are on the Red and are quite bitter rivals, Fargo in the south and Grand Forks in the north. I once was in a restroom in Fargo and saw scribbled on the wall: "Flush twice. Grand Forks needs the water."

Steve

 

Yes some did see limited use but most were made for collectors.