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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 7470238, member: 99456"]As usual, puzzled - trying to find any other examples of this coin. With 988 dies estimated by Crawford - there is no shortage of coins in this issue from the Roman republic and the Social War. The turtle control mark, is one that I am so far unsuccessful in finding listed anywhere. It doesn't show up in RRC p.349 Table XXIV, and tediously browsing the ~600 of this coin in ACSearch and 4 pages of coins in the BMC didn't help. Crawford suggested that he was working on a die study in RRC ("I hope in due course to publish a die-study of 4a-5b") as far as I can tell he didn't.</p><p><br /></p><p>The <b>Social War</b> (Bellum Sociale) was fought against Italian cities and tribes who wanted Roman citizenship. Although Rome won the war, they ended up granting Roman citizenship to their Italian allies to avoid another fight.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1294063[/ATTACH] </p><p><b>C. Vibius C.f. Pansa</b>, 90 BC, AR Denarius, 3.93g</p><p><b>Obv:</b> Laureate head of Apollo right; PANSA behind, a sea turtle below chin</p><p><b>Rev: </b>Minerva in quadriga right; C. VIBIVS. C. F in exergue</p><p><b>Ref:</b> Crawford <a href="http://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-342.5b" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-342.5b" rel="nofollow">342/5b</a>; Sydenham 684; Vibia 2[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 7470238, member: 99456"]As usual, puzzled - trying to find any other examples of this coin. With 988 dies estimated by Crawford - there is no shortage of coins in this issue from the Roman republic and the Social War. The turtle control mark, is one that I am so far unsuccessful in finding listed anywhere. It doesn't show up in RRC p.349 Table XXIV, and tediously browsing the ~600 of this coin in ACSearch and 4 pages of coins in the BMC didn't help. Crawford suggested that he was working on a die study in RRC ("I hope in due course to publish a die-study of 4a-5b") as far as I can tell he didn't. The [B]Social War[/B] (Bellum Sociale) was fought against Italian cities and tribes who wanted Roman citizenship. Although Rome won the war, they ended up granting Roman citizenship to their Italian allies to avoid another fight. [ATTACH=full]1294063[/ATTACH] [B]C. Vibius C.f. Pansa[/B], 90 BC, AR Denarius, 3.93g [B]Obv:[/B] Laureate head of Apollo right; PANSA behind, a sea turtle below chin [B]Rev: [/B]Minerva in quadriga right; C. VIBIVS. C. F in exergue [B]Ref:[/B] Crawford [URL='http://numismatics.org/crro/id/rrc-342.5b']342/5b[/URL]; Sydenham 684; Vibia 2[/QUOTE]
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