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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 5130820, member: 19463&quot;]Yes, I agree that the Vipsania ID makes a lot more sense than the Livilla one BUT we are dealing with politicians here and lying is a profession in that crowd.&nbsp; When a politician makes a strong point about how truthful and honest he is, my tendency is to wonder just who he is trying to fool.&nbsp;&nbsp; In this case, the least Pietas like woman in Rome may very well have been Livilla so a part of me wants to stick to that ID even though Vipsania, being dead, is more likely.&nbsp;&nbsp; In any event it is not Livia as it was labelled by the old crowd of experts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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