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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4621386, member: 19463"]RIC VII, page 419 discusses the five marks including this one but has a dedicated type face for each and does not use a name when discussing their relative order as proposed by Voetter, Kent and 'the present author'. They use (ii) and the second one (Give me a break!) rather than calling it as they saw it. Like Bing, I call it a sunburst and really do find 'the present author' (Sutherland or Carson?) being unnecessarily inscrutable. Perhaps one of our late Roman specialists can point to a place in RIC where the matter was discussed that we who have not memorized the earlier parts by chapter and verse would know what to call it. Failmezger, page 69, gave the five as "double crescent, fulmen, branch, wreath, sun" in one of his charts which struck me (his friend but not one that agreed with several of his book's less than clear arrangements) as reasonable. </p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/vf.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/vf.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/vf.html</a> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1144183[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the Failmezger book: I still recommend its purchase but I suggest you search for a copy less inflated in price than the Amazon offering.</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Bronze-Coins-Christianity-D/dp/1932109412" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Bronze-Coins-Christianity-D/dp/1932109412" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Bronze-Coins-Christianity-D/dp/1932109412</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4621386, member: 19463"]RIC VII, page 419 discusses the five marks including this one but has a dedicated type face for each and does not use a name when discussing their relative order as proposed by Voetter, Kent and 'the present author'. They use (ii) and the second one (Give me a break!) rather than calling it as they saw it. Like Bing, I call it a sunburst and really do find 'the present author' (Sutherland or Carson?) being unnecessarily inscrutable. Perhaps one of our late Roman specialists can point to a place in RIC where the matter was discussed that we who have not memorized the earlier parts by chapter and verse would know what to call it. Failmezger, page 69, gave the five as "double crescent, fulmen, branch, wreath, sun" in one of his charts which struck me (his friend but not one that agreed with several of his book's less than clear arrangements) as reasonable. [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/vf.html[/URL] [ATTACH=full]1144183[/ATTACH] Regarding the Failmezger book: I still recommend its purchase but I suggest you search for a copy less inflated in price than the Amazon offering. [URL]https://www.amazon.com/Roman-Bronze-Coins-Christianity-D/dp/1932109412[/URL][/QUOTE]
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