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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 1977414, member: 15199&quot;]Look at your last photo, notice how there is beveling on the top and bottom of the reeding.&nbsp; Proofs have edges that are strict right angles without any chamfering (beveling).</p><p>The 2 terms are used similarly, but there is a slight difference. This is the primary identification of&nbsp; proof from a business strike which both of your appear to be. A answer to your question is that appearance can ID a un-impaired&nbsp; proof&nbsp; that is satin or matte, but wear will eventually remove that&nbsp; if the die has no other identification differences.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.basiccarpentrytechniques.com/Handwork%20in%20Wood/images/271-400.png" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.basiccarpentrytechniques.com/Handwork%20in%20Wood/images/271-400.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.basiccarpentrytechniques.com/Handwork in Wood/images/271-400.png</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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